I'd love to know which single you have. I'm also glad to hear that we were "approachable". I like to think we were as well. We never took ourselves too seriously and appreciated everyone who came to see us. So many of the bands we played with were just straight up jerks. But it was fun while it lasted! http://www.freshdls.com
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Posted by: Keith Leonard on 10-19-11 about Eye Teeth
Wow, can't believe information on this band still exists. Yes, Kevin stood off to the side of the stage. I played with Eye Teeth through the recording of Threnody and then I was kicked out. From my perspective, I wasn't in the black thing enough and I was in Kalamazoo for attending WMU and not necessarily chasing a dream of becoming a professional musician. In short, I was less serious about the band than the others so I didn't fit in. Kinda funny, just before they started to record their second CD, I was called in to write a bass line for a song/record it and then possibly rejoin. I wasn't a pick player and this seemed to be one of Todd's many requirements. At some point after I recorded with them an internal explosion occured with the remaining egos and so went the band. End of story...lol...
Posted by: jim brooks on 05-23-11 about Rollinghead
we're saddened by the sudden loss of Douglas Garnett, who passed away during a bank robbery due to an expensive heroin habit. though a cliche and unoriginal musician, the world is better off without him. the funeral will be closed casket
In response to: Eric Blade on 05-21-11 for Rollinghead
Strangely, I just discovered yesterday that apparently the drummer for Rollinghead is a cousin of mine. --- end of previous message ---
What is this small brown bike? And what is a Strutt? Is that the new Theo and Stacy's?
Also, Jeff, to have a 'side project' (or implausibly THREE) you first need a 'main project', which all of us here would be delighted if either/or of you started.
Oh, not sure if it has been mentioned here but looks like Small Brown Bike has a new album coming out in 2 weeks. You can get it now on iTunes if you choose.
Brent and I hung out recently and did stuff. At the end of the night we had started no less than 3 side projects and talked about singing the song that ends the earth.
Ibwork for the largest tech firm in the world and they cant do this kind of spamming with a robot. They must be using real people, and these people even know where Monday night music was.
I am happy to find this post very useful for me, as it contains lot of information,i love Brent's voice, and the whole thing just sounds insane in a good (but nearly literal) way.
I am happy to find this post very useful for me, as it contains lot of information,i love Brent's voice, and the whole thing just sounds insane in a good (but nearly literal) way.
In order to reply to this message, I must answer "two plus three equals" with the name of the Monday night bar. Temple-goers are a clever lot, but after one polishes off that 4th martini, this could be confusing. This hurts me more than you because I wanted the HD thing to stay on top:(
In response to: Jeff on 02-27-11 for all
I've fixed the code --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: bummed on 02-25-11 about Thought Industry
this is sad and embarrassing. looks like he needs to make up with Dustin Donaldson.
>Brent's relentless search of the globe for new workforces to exploit, visiting India, Iceland, Europe, China, Australia and other locations within the last 12 months. Wow. Unfortunately, he reports to me over a few of our beers last week here in the Bay State that he's lost his creativity.<
That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song. Torrent downloads
"Wearing red shoes" is code for being on Ecstasy. Or having diarrhea. I forget. Too bad your post got buried by the spammers. I'll try and fix that. In response to: Culture Of None on 02-07-11 for all
Has anyone witnessed Brent Oberlin "wearing (his) red shoes"? Or is that merely a lyrical conjuring? I know that he's explored various distinctive and characteristic costumes over the Kzoo era...but I was curious if those '...Martini' era words were a reference perhaps to Converse All Star Chuck Taylor high tops in red...or perhaps some high-end designer red leather boots...or what? --- end of previous message ---
Has anyone witnessed Brent Oberlin "wearing (his) red shoes"? Or is that merely a lyrical conjuring? I know that he's explored various distinctive and characteristic costumes over the Kzoo era...but I was curious if those '...Martini' era words were a reference perhaps to Converse All Star Chuck Taylor high tops in red...or perhaps some high-end designer red leather boots...or what?
Has anyone witnessed Brent Oberlin "wearing (his) red shoes"? Or is that merely a lyrical conjuring? I know that he's explored various distinctive and characteristic costumes over the Kzoo era...but I was curious if those '...Martini' era words were a reference perhaps to Converse All Star Chuck Taylor high tops in red...or perhaps some high-end designer red leather boots...or what?
Cool to see you doing your thing. Hope the family is well. You can reach me at 269 270 6123. I'm over the past, life's too short.We miss you.
Mark
In response to: Tonyboldi@yahoo.com on 12-28-07 for Bone China
Are you guys still in California...I am in Hollywood...get a hold of me if you can...tonyb 323.481.1718...I was Jill Conrads ex to refresh your memory...smile...happy 2008
In response to: Vegas E. Trip on 07-19-07 for Bone China
First of all, I just turned 39!..NOT 40! dammit..lets not jump the age here.
And thank you Brent for givin' the proper name...although all of you forgot the lauded 'E.' of the moniker. Some brief notes..Dustin did not record on the 4 song ep..he was on an album (technically unreleased) of 5 songs. Tom Ufkes was on the 4 song.
Me 'real' name now is Vegas J. Jenkins..the 'E. Trip' is for the folks in the audience. WooHoo!
I now have a band called 'Gooferman'...a 10-piece Klown band..yup, I said 'Klown' band. It was inevitable..anyone shocked at this..obviousley never knew me.
theblight.net,pixievisionproductions.com and so on.
Anyhoo..this site is definitely a weird mind fuck from a time that feels like a distant dream.
Oh, and to put that rumor of Dustin and I being left in the cold off the Pansy Division tour..
here's what happened..D and I had no other engagements back home to get to after tour ended..we had a few extra days open. The other guys had to get back to work and other projects right away..so they drove straight back to S.F...while Dustin and I kicked it in Mich for an extra day to see folks and the like..then flew back after that.
This is why I don't believe the bible..too many story tellers tellin' too many stretched out fables.
Cheers
V --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
I fixed the regular link to STARS. Enjoy one of the most kick assiest tracks on the 'temple.
Sorry for the broken link. We've had staff retention problems, had to recently liquidate our service center in Vietnam, and have been having cultural issues ever since commodity prices have started soaring.
Posted by: this is awesome. on 01-20-11 about Thought Industry
In response to: Todd K on 01-13-11 for Thought Industry
Went to K college in the glory days of Kalamazoo, love early TI and I Am Spoonbender, so i thought i'd post this here. Last summer i was in LA and San Francisco for work, and my boss took me to this restaurant in Hollywood where "the artists hang out". We were sitting there when Kirk from Metallica walked in with Dustin Donaldson (who i didn't recognize at first) and sat down a couple of tables over. I couldn't hear them much. They finished eating and Dustin went outside to call somebody. Hammett went to the bathroom so i went out to say hello and maybe talk kalamzoo. When i got there, Mike Patton walked up to Donaldson! Kirk joins the conversation. They all know each other well it seemed. Then i see a guy and a girl come out of a place from across the street, notice the group and poke each other. They sorta nervously come over, wanting to say something. Finally, they said "are you Dustin Donaldson!? OMG I Am Spoonbender are gods seen all your shows, etc". NOTHING to Hammett or Patton! man they were excited about meeting Dustin. He was excellent to them, signed autographs and then they all left to go to some gallery opening (i think they said). 5 days later i'm in Frisco, eating breakfast in the Mission District when who do i see but fucking Dustin D again, with Jello Biafra. had to say hi this time (and met Jello!) Donaldson said that recently he was working in Egypt on some 7000 year old cave stuff in the Sahara desert and said that Kalamazoo seemed like another lifetime long ago. awesome. --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Nice! Bimbos was the best pizza I ever had.. I''m now in Colorado, but miss Bimbos, Bilbos too, but for their sanwichs, not pizza) the Stae theature, the Barking Tuna fest,... on 01-17-11 about Rollinghead
In response to: Mike Pawlowski on 09-18-08 for Rollinghead
Ah man still love to type "Rollinghead" in search engines. To see this little bit is great. Grew up in Kzoo and spent my entire teens stuck in the State seeing so many great acts. Worked at Bimbo's and spent almost an underaged lifetime at the Soda drinking Bell's Amber watching shows like Rollinghead, DRD, Killswitch (is Clements still alive?), Twitch, Mustard Plug, Thought Industry, even The Verve Pipe (even way back when they were Johnny with an Eye). Well anyways good to see people are still interested. I have every Rollinghead album here in Austin, TX with me. I should figure out how to upload all of them for others. Went to see Frank Black do a small show here in the ATX with a Rollinghead Tee on, he actually mentioned to me that they were from Kzoo.
Missing Piranha Alley and the Mall....... --- end of previous message ---
If you have something to contribute, i.e., music that belongs here, send it on to cool @ leons temple . com (remove spaces). Make it easy for us to post, e.g., write your bio, list band members, send mp3s.
Posted by: Todd K on 01-13-11 about Thought Industry
Went to K college in the glory days of Kalamazoo, love early TI and I Am Spoonbender, so i thought i'd post this here. Last summer i was in LA and San Francisco for work, and my boss took me to this restaurant in Hollywood where "the artists hang out". We were sitting there when Kirk from Metallica walked in with Dustin Donaldson (who i didn't recognize at first) and sat down a couple of tables over. I couldn't hear them much. They finished eating and Dustin went outside to call somebody. Hammett went to the bathroom so i went out to say hello and maybe talk kalamzoo. When i got there, Mike Patton walked up to Donaldson! Kirk joins the conversation. They all know each other well it seemed. Then i see a guy and a girl come out of a place from across the street, notice the group and poke each other. They sorta nervously come over, wanting to say something. Finally, they said "are you Dustin Donaldson!? OMG I Am Spoonbender are gods seen all your shows, etc". NOTHING to Hammett or Patton! man they were excited about meeting Dustin. He was excellent to them, signed autographs and then they all left to go to some gallery opening (i think they said). 5 days later i'm in Frisco, eating breakfast in the Mission District when who do i see but fucking Dustin D again, with Jello Biafra. had to say hi this time (and met Jello!) Donaldson said that recently he was working in Egypt on some 7000 year old cave stuff in the Sahara desert and said that Kalamazoo seemed like another lifetime long ago. awesome.
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i had a girlfriend from Malmo Sweden. stayed in Stockholm for a few weeks, winter is too harsh for words there. I'll help you retrieve some creativity Mr. Oberlin. Corporate looting of the mind is a terrible thing.
i have 2 new projects up and running. HULAHOOP COWBOYS is a fun sort of EODM type of sexy. PTSD is also up, a progressive surfish pop project. http://www.myspace.com/ptsdonline and http://www.myspace.com/hulahoopcowboys PLZ SHARE THE LUV
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Posted by: downloads regarding Owsla on 12-16-10 about Owsla
Hey, does anyone know where to get downloads of Owsla songs? This website's downloads for them does not work for some reason. Can download other band's website music but not Owsla's. Very curious to hear how they sounded. Thanks, Matt L.
Posted by: Erik Koning on 12-02-10 about screwtape
Best memory of the Kalamazoo scene was watching Screwtape at Kalapalooza II. I was...um 15?...and had a blast the entire time. Would love to see Kalamazoo get some love like again.
The Hovering Lights http://www.myspace.com/thehoveringlights = Bryers, Joby & Shawn Rainer first finished song posted give it a listen! --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Tony Party on 11-13-10 about Phil A Sheo and The Goods
Did you have the tape from the Kalamazoo band or the reformed NY band? The tracks here are from the NY outfit. I think I have a 9 song tape of the Kzoo version kicking around and the song you're talking about was called Dirty Bird.
In response to: fred249x on 10-22-10 for Phil A Sheo and The Goods
yeah, i had a copy of this years ago and there's a hidden track on the end of the album -- its some eerie classical 20's 30's era-sounding type of stuff. if you could post those mp3's or get in touch with me sometime to get me a copy of the disc would be much appreciated. thank you.
fred249x@hotmail.com --- end of previous message ---
On the links: I've had to move this site three times and it seems I lose stuff each time. I would be delighted if someone could inventory the broken links for me and send them to cool at leonstemple dot com.
In response to: on 10-25-10 for all
What happened to the links? A lot of them are broken. I tried to find the answer here, I promise. --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: fred249x on 10-22-10 about Phil A Sheo and The Goods
yeah, i had a copy of this years ago and there's a hidden track on the end of the album -- its some eerie classical 20's 30's era-sounding type of stuff. if you could post those mp3's or get in touch with me sometime to get me a copy of the disc would be much appreciated. thank you.
I have been trying to get ahold of Will for almost 5 years now, played in a band called Cycle with him back in the day. The guy never opened a facebook! Haha. If anyone on here can get my e-mail address (iceandfiresong@gmail.com) to him it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -David
Posted by: Craig on 09-26-10 about contribute info
Hi Craig here, formerly of the 90's kzoo band Schneider. Brad, our former guitarist has been sending me tracks and I've been messing around adding vocals. You can hear them at:
Its universal and simple, since the amount of messages willl probably not justify an elaborate, multi-subject, multi-threaded style board with the pains of logging in and membership and everything. At the same time, this one will pick which messages to show. On the homepage, it shows all messages, on the band pages, only messages about that band. Neat full downloads
Posted by: hotfile download on 09-25-10 about Fletcher
practice in the Douglas St. house basement. I would make like ramen noodles on toast, potatoes w/ carl budding corn beef sandwich slices, sandwich cookies dipped in jello, that sort of fare. full downloads
Posted by: hotfile download on 09-24-10 about everything
I'd love to know which single you have. I'm also glad to hear that we were "approachable". I like to think we were as well. We never took ourselves too seriously and appreciated everyone who came to see us. So many of the bands we played with were just straight up jerks. But it was fun while it lasted! http://www.freshdls.com
The guitarist from Veronica Speedwell asked Bryers if he could use the name he said he didn't care but asked me if I cared I don't. I always thought Knives are Quiet should have just been called Bryers because he wrote everything and we were meat puppets. The live casette exsists but it was direct from the board and is nothing but vocals and snare and it sounds pretty much like poo... Correct you are about the Cure Cover tho.
..uh...there is a band called Knives Are Quiet with a Facebook page (and some updates regarding Grand Rapids area shows?) that does not appear to be Chris Bryers fronted. 1) What has this world come to? 2) Where is the audio of the Bryers fronted Knives Are Quiet? I seem to remember a Cure cover and other such obscure tuneage on their web pages of years past...
Posted by: David Byrd on 09-10-10 about Club Soda calendars
Funny I should come across this thread- I was the drummer for Confuse A Cat and remember Club Soda fondly. There were 4 of us, Jim (singer/rhythm guitar), Jen (bass), Cathy (lead guitar), and myself. We were indeed based out of Detroit. I'd love to know which single you have. I'm also glad to hear that we were "approachable". I like to think we were as well. We never took ourselves too seriously and appreciated everyone who came to see us. So many of the bands we played with were just straight up jerks. But it was fun while it lasted!
In response to: Carl on 02-19-09 for Club Soda calendars
Confuse a Cat was out of Detroit. Think they were a 3 piece(maybe 4) with at least one female. Can't be positive on that one. They were real approachable people though and I believe I still have their 7" in storage someplace. --- end of previous message ---
Hey Rollinghead fans!
Rollinghead will be playing at Bell's on Sept, 11, 2010 as part of their 25th anniversary. Check out the Facebook page for more details:
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Rollinghead/118027563120?ref=ts
if anybody wants to hang out in kalamazoo on friday, i'll be there at the blue oyster cult show downtown. mention it to others on your facebooks, etc if you want. bring everybody. i haven't been to kzoo in almost 10 years, so it MIGHT be fun to see each other. send me a text at 415 948 7527. i'll probably be with scott c ream, so you know how that'll likely go... see you friday night, for a little 'dominance and submission'...
Posted by: Joby on 08-13-10 about Club Soda calendars
For the record I still have them like 4 years later and they are still in the condition you sent them in colin... As I'm no longer a complete hobo and working for Tills table scraps I'd be happy to mail them back joby_purucker@ ya h oo dot com
In response to: Colin H. on 06-23-09 for Club Soda calendars
actually, I have quite a few more. maybe I can work out a deal with Joby to get the old ones back in exchange for some more. Perhaps in a year or two! lol --- end of previous message ---
Sorry for dead links. Does anyone want to do a QC for me and send them to cool @ leons temple dot com? You will be rewarded with praise and gratitude for your volunteerism, which also comes with some Kzoo Karma (a cigarette butt put out in the backwash of a Mickey's 40, dumped in a pile of dirty snow)
Also, if you have Sleestacks tapes, digitize them (what? How?) and send them on.
Bill: if you have samples or want to put a package together we'll post a page and an ad
Karl filled in on bass for the 2007 VA reunion shows. Ironic that Jason Fortier is following in his footsteps this weekend, since Karl joined Fortune and Maltese when Jason bowed out.
..and yeah, "Fantastic Zero" is godly...that whole 1st Act of the disc...*somehow* that album came together as a miraculous, definitive chapter in the sonic oeuvre, despite being on Grass Records : ) ....didn't Bryers say (in an interview way back) that the lyrics were somewhat inspired by horror movie ghoulies? (like The Exorcist, etc)
Posted by: Culture Of None on 07-11-10 about twitch
both "Nero Apologizes" and "Locomotive God" are mind-boggling, forward-thinking, magnificent works of grand mythic importance...I think I was around 17 when I bought 'Beaten Senseless...' and few albums have haunted me like that disc. Have I mentioned too many times that I *still* have my heather-grey Twitch shirt (ordered from Grass Records mail order)?
In response to: Jeff T on 07-09-10 for twitch
I think the twitch guitar riff underneath the lyrics "see the planes exploding, victims fall still strapped to their seats. Took all the drugs you said I should, and every girl is made of wood..." may be the most kick-assiest in the entire 'temple catalog. --- end of previous message ---
I think the twitch guitar riff underneath the lyrics "see the planes exploding, victims fall still strapped to their seats. Took all the drugs you said I should, and every girl is made of wood..." may be the most kick-assiest in the entire 'temple catalog.
Posted by: Kirk Decker on 07-05-10 about BuddhaChrist
These guys are sweet. They were kind enough to let me jam with them for a while. Anetra was/is one of the best drummers in the area. Thanks for the memories!
I'm glad people liked the new info(or old info for some).
Nothing will ever compare to the first two T.I. releases...imo.
I really like stuff after that too, but that was a very important time for me to be listening to them.
I luckily saw them here in Minnesota on the "Mods" tour and it was AWESOME!
I am envious of fans that saw them multiple times.
Posted by: drunken slobs on 07-03-10 about Thought Industry
I stil think the best TI album was Dutch Mafia.
In response to: BlackVapour on 06-18-10 for Thought Industry
So- in the lyrics to Black Umbrella- were those all typos as well? It's quite funny how they were thanked by Black Spring as "Though Industry". I'm not taking a shot at anyone- all this time I thought it was deliberate, like Desacrator. Was that done so the logo would be more symmetrical?
In response to: Culture Of None (Adam C Paul) on 06-10-10 for Thought Industry
As i recollect, "THE Thought Industry" was used on the (rather lamentable) cover art of the 'Recruited To Do..' comp.
Some of us in the Detroit area at first expected it was an in-house Metal Blade designer gaff. (I'd once asked Brent about spelling errors in the 'Outer Space..' booklet, and he replied "There weren't any spelling errors *when I turned them in*...")
Speaking of 'Martini..' - let's not overlook that the monolithic show-opener "Fairy" was (at least in riff) credited to Paul.
Any shred of TI insight is awesome, as always - much thanks to D. Richardson for sharing. It's always a pip to see folks mention "issues" w/ regard to Brent...poor fella was just trying to make his way through life : D --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: BlackVapour on 06-18-10 about Thought Industry
So- in the lyrics to Black Umbrella- were those all typos as well? It's quite funny how they were thanked by Black Spring as "Though Industry". I'm not taking a shot at anyone- all this time I thought it was deliberate, like Desacrator. Was that done so the logo would be more symmetrical?
In response to: Culture Of None (Adam C Paul) on 06-10-10 for Thought Industry
As i recollect, "THE Thought Industry" was used on the (rather lamentable) cover art of the 'Recruited To Do..' comp.
Some of us in the Detroit area at first expected it was an in-house Metal Blade designer gaff. (I'd once asked Brent about spelling errors in the 'Outer Space..' booklet, and he replied "There weren't any spelling errors *when I turned them in*...")
Speaking of 'Martini..' - let's not overlook that the monolithic show-opener "Fairy" was (at least in riff) credited to Paul.
Any shred of TI insight is awesome, as always - much thanks to D. Richardson for sharing. It's always a pip to see folks mention "issues" w/ regard to Brent...poor fella was just trying to make his way through life : D --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C Paul) on 06-10-10 about Thought Industry
As i recollect, "THE Thought Industry" was used on the (rather lamentable) cover art of the 'Recruited To Do..' comp.
Some of us in the Detroit area at first expected it was an in-house Metal Blade designer gaff. (I'd once asked Brent about spelling errors in the 'Outer Space..' booklet, and he replied "There weren't any spelling errors *when I turned them in*...")
Speaking of 'Martini..' - let's not overlook that the monolithic show-opener "Fairy" was (at least in riff) credited to Paul.
Any shred of TI insight is awesome, as always - much thanks to D. Richardson for sharing. It's always a pip to see folks mention "issues" w/ regard to Brent...poor fella was just trying to make his way through life : D
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C Paul) on 06-10-10 about Thought Industry
As i recollect, "THE Thought Industry" was used on the (rather lamentable) cover art of the 'Recruited To Do..' comp.
Some of us in the Detroit area at first expected it was an in-house Metal Blade designer gaff. (I'd once asked Brent about spelling errors in the 'Outer Space..' booklet, and he replied "There weren't any spelling errors *when I turned them in*...")
Speaking of 'Martini..' - let's not overlook that the monolithic show-opener "Fairy" was (at least in riff) credited to Paul.
Any shred of TI insight is awesome, as always - much thanks to D. Richardson for sharing. It's always a pip to see folks mention "issues" w/ regard to Brent...poor fella was just trying to make his way through life : D
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C Paul) on 06-10-10 about Thought Industry
As i recollect, "THE Thought Industry" was used on the (rather lamentable) cover art of the 'Recruited To Do..' comp.
Some of us in the Detroit area at first expected it was an in-house Metal Blade designer gaff. (I'd once asked Brent about spelling errors in the 'Outer Space..' booklet, and he replied "There weren't any spelling errors *when I turned them in*...")
Speaking of 'Martini..' - let's not overlook that the monolithic show-opener "Fairy" was (at least in riff) credited to Paul.
Any shred of TI insight is awesome, as always - much thanks to D. Richardson for sharing. It's always a pip to see folks mention "issues" w/ regard to Brent...poor fella was just trying to make his way through life : D
Posted by: Jeff T on 06-10-10 about Thought Industry
Not to dispute Dave nor Chris in this bully-fine interview (thanks for posting!),
On post Mods albums being less of a group effort: if you scan the songwriting credits on Shortwave, besides Brent's monopoly on lyrics, that just about everybody chipped in on composition.
And I believe "THE Thought Industry" didn't appear until Shortwave either.
Posted by: Dave Richardson on 06-06-10 about Thought Industry
Dave Richardson Hello everybody, I got in contact with Christopher Lee over the last week and asked him some questions that I was always wondering about. He was ok with me posting, so I thought you would all like to read it.
Chris said:
here ya go, post away;
1. Do you ever listen to Thought Industry, and if so, do you have any favorite songs?
Christopher-
No i don't listen to t.i.. Favs yes; favorite cd = Mods... favorite songs = Songs for Insects, horsepowered, daterape cookbook, boil, smirk the godblender, to build a better bulldozer, D.I.Y. tranquilizers, Watercolour gray.
2. The first two albums seemed to be a group effort, but after Mods, it seemed to change. Was this because Brent switched to guitar or was there less input from others?
Christopher-
well, S.F.I. was a trio effort ultimately. Brent, Dustin and I. We had a few years of creating, living and fighting between us and that gave great chemistry to our song building process. most of those songs had been in our repertoire since the late desecrator days. brent and i both wrote lots of songs parts, brent was a little better at making songs out of them in those days, so he would take my ideas and incorporate them into his, and some of my complete ideas became songs. dustin was always the one pushing the envelope to get a signature sound out of them. dustin didn't really write any music per-say, but his influence and energy would prove to be sorely missed after we let him go. he was brents counter balance in many ways. i digress... so S.F.I. was written over years and recorded in a week... lame! Metal Blade sucked!! anyway, i played all of the guitar parts on that album except for pauls leads and i think some acoustic stuff. so was it a group effort, not completely, it was the 3 of us pushing our agendas and slighting paul a bit. he was very new at that time. Mods... that was a group effort album. paul wrote some and played his own parts, i had written more complete song ideas, brent was coming into his own vocally and structurally, and dustins artistic input was top notch. DD's sonic input really pushed our approach into that TI sound. Ken Marshall really helped capture that too. touring really shoved a wedge between dustin and the rest of us. he really wanted to be "the guy" and the rest of us were peaking in our own musical ways at that time so, the ego flare-ups were unbearable. So we decided it was best that dustin move on to pursue his own agendas. brent had some "issues" at that time that really hindered the bands cohesion and started to get much worse upon dustins separation. so long dirty story short, brent quit playing bass. this was the beginning of the end for me. i had about 20 songs for the next record, i think paul and brent did too. in the end the "issues" were too much for the band, and i opted out just after a couple tours for O.S.I.J.A.M.A.. that album was mostly brent and i writing and struggling, paul was cut short once again, and the other guys were just players and didn't have the original chemistry that made TI cool, in my opinion. after that, he (brent) should have changed the name. which he sorta did, to THE thought industry...
3. Did you like Dustin's playing or was it hard to write or play with such a busy player (I ask this as a drummer). Did you think the musical direction was better when Dustin was in the band?
Christopher-
i think i answered this in the previous question, but YES! without doubt, dustins playing was essential in TI's style. We should have gotten some sort of group therapy and worked out our ego issues, but in the end it all happened for the best. i am a busy player myself. i am now a drummer as well as a guitarist etc... and i play very much in that style.
4. Who's idea was it to pan guitars hard left/right on MODS? And was it because you and Paul were doing such different things...esp on Boil?
Christopher-
hmmm... well i guess that idea was lennon and mccartneys!? seriously though.... but metal at that time was that way; slayer, metallica, anthrax, etc... it was the norm. still is really.
5. Why did you leave Thought Industry and do you ever miss playing with past members...who would you play with again?
Christopher-
Jeez... I can't answer that question with complete honesty because it would be damaging to some people. let's just say that the aforementioned "issues" were typical, always end the same way, and i was having no part of it anymore. plus, i had an offer to play with FILTER. if you remember in all the bio bullshit TI released after i quit, they said i left due to problems living in chicago... well, the problem was i would drive 2.5 hrs to kalamazoo, every week, couple times a week, to rehearse as scheduled and people were too bust getting drunk/high/laid to honor the agreed practice schedule. ya see, the deal was i would get us a chicago base and they would come there to live and grow. anyway, i met an old friend (geno from chemlab) and he was in FILTER at that point, so we worked together on some material, and that lead to me getting the offer to do Title Of Record. So when the final straw fell, i just walked away from TI very easily... sad really... but for the best. i got a platinum award out of it! and a shit ton of work after that. who would i play with now? well that would depend on who's being real and who's not. Dustin for sure! Jared and Paul i would like to. it's funny you ask... i had an investor about 5 years ago that's a very famous/powerful/rich dude that just loves TI to no end, and he was willing to pay for us to reunite, record, and tour, all on his dime. but when i tried to make contact with some of the TI peeps, i got negativity and emptiness. so i dropped it. i ultimately didn't really feel it was a good idea anyway.
6. If you were asked (probably for a chunk of money) to write and record a new Thought Industry album (no touring, just a new album) with Brent, Dustin, Paul and you...would you do it?
Christopher-
see previous answer. but i guess the answer might be yes. i am very busy producing bands/artists, writing and recording songs, and i have no desire to interrupt that. dustin and i had mentioned it through email once, but neither of us ran with that ball. honestly, i have this project TEN TON ROLLER-SKATE that is a big $ maker. It's gonna take a lot to pull me off of that tit at the moment. but if the price was right, and the atmosphere was clear, i'd probably do it. shit, i've got about 200 complete songs recorded that would make great new TI stuff. basically anything that doesn't make the bullhead cut.
7. I see your list of projects on the myspace site:
http://www.facebook.com/l/a7258;www.myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds
Which of these available on cd or download?
Christopher-
all are available, though the bullhead collection is currently in wait due to a potential label deal as a multi cd release.
the static dynamic - the static dynamic
bullhead - scalp
bullhead - taurus
snuttock - straight jacket life
snuttock - carved and sutured
filter - title of record
ten ton roller-skate - (T.B.A.) soon
christopher lee simmonds - the devils only love (T.B.A.)
8. Who do you listen to these days. And what are some of your biggest influences/favorite guitarists?
Christopher-
as always, peter gabriel, meshuggah, deftones, fredrik thordendals special defects, ani difranco, devin townsend/strapping young lad, steve vai, skinny puppy/ohgr, this list could go on... I am more influenced by drummers these days; martin agren, owe lingvall, tomas haake, carter beauford, ray luzier, terry bozzio, john macalusso.
thanks for your questions Dave! I'm always available for any TI friends/fans conversations.
So let me ask you and anyone else that cares to answer a question; of all the former TI members post TI bands, whose your favorite? I personally dig I Am Spoonbender:)
And for the record; 111MZD was just an ordinary Michigan license plate. nothing more... so silly.
A bit late in replying to this, but I have the Mezz Chamber cassette. After I rip it, I'll post a download link...
In response to: kiry on 08-06-07 for All
mezz chamber....please tell me someone on here has a copy of the cassette and can burn it to cd.....one of the most underrated bands from kalamazoo....resin mattress played with them at mesiahs a couple of times....perhaps its a better memory...i have to know for sure....double bass drum.....not a double pedal....but two actual bass drums.....the only metal band that counts from that era.....all others were merely posing and clucking... --- end of previous message ---
You could probably ask their drummer, Steve Moore. He works @ Guitar Center in Kazoo.
In response to: Eric Blade on 02-15-10 for all
holy crap, that's awesome. I don't think it's the same one I had , though.. i seem to recall there having been a song called "Death Dreamer" .. but maybe that was the lyrics.. checking it out right now.
Posted by: Anetra Clark on 05-18-10 about BuddhaChrist
I came to the band after Lisa and whatever other drummers BuddhaChrist may have had. I played on the only full length CD we ever made including the "Down" single. I have played for years so.... whoever said that I play "crisp for a girl" please come and have a drum off with me.... my treat, anytime, anywhere.
We went down for a couple days with a server move. Let me know if there are any missing songs or files.
Also, we lost a few of the recent post. Sorry! I think they were mostly about John Henry being back in kzoo and that he would report to us if he found something good.
i actually remember konichi wah being tom brignall and martin guerrin (sp on both names)on guitars and shared vocals, and ed artis on bass. they later evolved into naked lunch, still with tom, but adding dug on bass, jim belson on guitar, and dave fox on electronic drums.
Hello all. Larmee here to plug an ex-Trocar/Dynamic Ribbon Device/First To The Fence/Hornet/Spit For Athena band. Download the new MINUTES release for free http://minutes.bandcamp.com/ or buy the vinyl version http://www.dischord.com/release/min01/4-song-7. Come see it live tonight at The Strutt in Kalamazoo with glowfriends and Tre Orsi (denton, TX).
The girl pulling off the VH solo's name is Orianthi(sp?). She has a solo record out on which she does all the vocals and guitar. I guess she opened for Steve Vai on his last tour and yes kzoo rocks.
In response to: Jeff T on 03-20-10 for all
I watched most of "This is It" the other night ($4.99, OnDemand) and the dude who plays bass can fucking THUMP the bitch. Wait about 45 minutes in after they pass "the way you make me feel" shit and they get to motowny stuff.
Also, he's hired a blond female guitarist who is like a hot version of Lita Ford from "Kiss me deadly" days. She pulls off Eddie Van Halen's solo flawlessly w/r/t no tits/ditz compromising her wank.
MJ himself is surprisingly spry for a 50 year old man/alien/child molester/corpse. That dude can really dance and sing. Too bad he freaked the fuck out instead of working on his music.
PS kzoo rocks (keeping on topic) --- end of previous message ---
I wanted to add "sounds like braille" to the worst band names list, even though they weren't from Kalamazoo (merely friends of kalamazoo). If bongtokers "memories of tomorrow" rank high, SLB should be there too.
I watched most of "This is It" the other night ($4.99, OnDemand) and the dude who plays bass can fucking THUMP the bitch. Wait about 45 minutes in after they pass "the way you make me feel" shit and they get to motowny stuff.
Also, he's hired a blond female guitarist who is like a hot version of Lita Ford from "Kiss me deadly" days. She pulls off Eddie Van Halen's solo flawlessly w/r/t no tits/ditz compromising her wank.
MJ himself is surprisingly spry for a 50 year old man/alien/child molester/corpse. That dude can really dance and sing. Too bad he freaked the fuck out instead of working on his music.
own to dust..."Distance" used to rattle my windows...
In response to: Bill Millmine on 09-29-09 for Rollinghead
I use to work with Dave Grant at the KIA and watch Rollinghead/Deadriverdrag play at Club-Soda all the time. Rollinghead is one of my most listend to cd's still today. I wish I could have been there to see them again.
I played Bass for the Bremmens and have a lot of fond memories of the music scene back in the day.
We would be kickin in walls at Lovell street house to Thought Industry, then be trippin at the God Bullies place and end up toaking our way back Oak street to jam with Maureen and Adam and the Bremmens clan all night long.
I'm going to have to get back to Kazoo sometime. --- end of previous message ---
john, i've woken up with years gone and no memories of what transpired. if you remember the 90's you weren't there i suppose. and especially the late great 80's. anyway, no harm done. i just cringe when i see my name mentioned in anything really. as if i didn't already have an entire lifetime of embarrassing moments to live down. didn't realize you were a band manager tho. interesting.
s/revisionist history/lost brain cells and a penchant for over-writing - "revisionist history" implies will and purpose.
Sometimes the details of my memories are off. Sometimes I was given bad information back then. Sometimes I pick a word that has implications I hadn't considered profound (like "betrothed" instead of "girlfriend").
Sometimes I wonder if I was there at all, or if it's all some head-trauma induced hallucination fueled by long-forgotten dreams of changing the world and too much LSD during the first Bush administration.
There are days when I favor the latter theory...
In response to: D Garnett on 02-26-10 for John Henry
John, seems to be alot of revisionist history happening here. We were all in a small town where everyone pretty much knew everyone else during different stages of life. but for the record i was never ever 'betrothed' to anyone. i just did what every other horny 19 year old did at the time, which is to see as many people as possible and try to get away with it. lol --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Tommy on 02-27-10 about Thought Industry
We have a Facebook group on the go, if anybody would like to contribute, I can make you an Officer and eventually an Administrator. :) I know, I know, its a lot to compute, but do it to honor the band! thOught industry....for eva!
John, seems to be alot of revisionist history happening here. We were all in a small town where everyone pretty much knew everyone else during different stages of life. but for the record i was never ever 'betrothed' to anyone. i just did what every other horny 19 year old did at the time, which is to see as many people as possible and try to get away with it. lol
If you need them, I downloaded the Beaten Senseless tracks a year or so ago and can re-up them somewhere. Feel free to drop me a line at rallicknom AT gmail DOT com.
In response to: Master on 02-22-10 for all
Drat, I'll try to fix the links. I don't think I have the files anymore --- end of previous message ---
holy crap, that's awesome. I don't think it's the same one I had , though.. i seem to recall there having been a song called "Death Dreamer" .. but maybe that was the lyrics.. checking it out right now.
It's not the exact same as the tape I had.. definitely sounds different .. but it's not too far. :D
holy crap, that's awesome. I don't think it's the same one I had , though.. i seem to recall there having been a song called "Death Dreamer" .. but maybe that was the lyrics.. checking it out right now.
hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls?
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BlackRabbit from Sin City
great musicians...to date the most fun I ever had playing music...I loved playing in every instance, but playing with these guys was a blank canvas, and they humored my input enough toi make me feel like I had a purpose in contributing. I loved the guns, and the fact I could play the music face down drunk most of the time...I loved Table because I played with my closest pals...and TI was always fun to tour...wish I would have taken that more seriously...oh well...hind sight and all;) funny to hear these songs again. I left the band just as we were starting to gel. I think if I would have continued with Gary and Steve and Kevin, I would have produced some of the best drumming...they really brought it out in me.
I belonged to a leseer knon band named Uncarved Block we were sort of Taoist but know I regret using the analogy for Pu for a Trojan band that conqured the people of the Kalamazutra river, orwhateva. anywaiegh all hail the jewel in the heart of the lotus flower, power to the speaker. Any photos of us you may share are copywrite free and fell free to use them or boots to commerate our history for cyber-drunks and zippies. I'll send in some fleyers, we played with Konichi-wa, and also opened for thought industry and our last show was with the Godbullies. To bad our town turned so culture free; I liked the community filled with culture for regular and other soda people who found light in other people's hearts. If anyone wants to cause a scene, I'm still a singer and an industial programmer, we could get together and breathe love into the trees of Kalamaghana with some musicand gathering, I love your site, I had the same idea, preserving the People's history of the river and preseving recordings for as long as there are servers and IBM's. I can also help open a club providied we have a festival to raise money for molk and honey and o mani. Also considering Gibson guitar has a plant here shouldn't we have a Hard Rock Cafe? Happiness from plainwell - I'm seious about a club, it could be a great gift///
Hi, guys! I must say that I downloaded your songs on torrent search engine http://www.picktorrent.com and never regretted it. You are telling your story with such warmth and nostalgia that I could understand you miss those times. I wish you good luck and inspiration to create new masterpieces:)
Posted by: Kelly A on 02-01-10 about The Sleestacks
Man, am I happy to find a copy of A Pirate's Life. I gave my cassette away to the bass player for some touring band (Fluid, I think). Now I can play Captain's Boy for my children! Thank you Leon's Temple!
In response to: Culture Of None on 01-28-10 for King Tammy
someone should coax a reminiscence out of Brent Oberlin for this discussion...some insight into what it was like being behind the boards for King Tammy's debut --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Culture Of None on 01-28-10 about King Tammy
someone should coax a reminiscence out of Brent Oberlin for this discussion...some insight into what it was like being behind the boards for King Tammy's debut
I am just sick knowing I missed the reunion show!!! I never missed a show until now. Still listen to my autograped cd's all the time. All the guys knew me as their biggest fan. Thanks for all the memories!!!!!!!!!!
Man, I dig seeing old band flyers. Nothing like hand made promotional material. Where would we be without Kinkos?
I forgot all about that Overman/King Tammy/Kidd Death Show. One of the few times I ever saw a penis on the Club Soda stage. Sweet.
Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-14-10 about Rollinghead
first time I saw Rollinghead was at a Battle of the Bands in Portage at the bomb shelter right off of Westnedge by the fire station. I lost count how many times during my time at WMU that I saw them, Never a bad show!
I remember them, seems like they were around earlier on, more during the Worhead-era scene when a lot of the local bands were still very heavy on metal covers and not doing a huge amount of original music yet. Seems like someone I was fairly tight with later played with them but I can't remember who? Or maybe not *shrug*
In response to: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 for all
hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls?
Wow, what a great site! Evan and I used study chemistry at WMU back in 1989-1990-ish.
I was at the house on Minor St when the Berlin wall came down. 510 Minor street if my foggy memory serves me correctly.
Stairway to Hot-n-Now at the Soda...I may have been there for that one.
Rock On!
Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-10-10 about Grant and Roche
I grew up in the zoo area listening to the great bands like Rollinghead, DRD, FAQ, feedbag, and the like.
Dave Grant is the man. I cannot believe I missed the Bells show last summer.
Hopefully there will be some more shows in 2010.
The Tom Hubert from Kalamazoo that I knew passed away several years ago. Is this some sick joke?
Man, talk about modicum of class.
In response to: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 for all
having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd:
On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing.
Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"?
why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf?
please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you. --- end of previous message ---
Ah. That makes me feel better. For I minute I thought maybe she found out it was me who NO CARRIER
In response to: Jeff Till on 01-06-10 for all
John, I'm the one who fabricated an insult to Karla, who knows I'm a goose and an affectionate jab. No apologies from you are needed, I'm just having fun at your expense.
John, I'm the one who fabricated an insult to Karla, who knows I'm a goose and an affectionate jab. No apologies from you are needed, I'm just having fun at your expense.
Just checking in...things are slowly going on, and as a few folks already knew I'm back in the 'zoo since July and am...well, heartbroken wouldn't be too strong a word to describe it. Everything's GONE. Time to get to work.
I was just catching up on my reading and wasn't going to bother posting but saw Karla's remarks...accuracy I'll take a hit on all day, lord knows I've lost some brain cells over the years. Hell, let's not mince words: I should be dead by all rights and it's a miracle that I can remember my own name sometimes. If I've misremembered or mis-sequenced something important, everyone please feel free to set the record straight.
Not sure what I might have said to make Karla think she looked bad, but whatever it was it was purely unintentional and I apologize profusely.
Historical errors I can live with, but unintentionally insulting someone or hurting their feelings is something else entirely. As the insult was apparently public, so should be the apology, and I hope that fixes whatever I broke.
Posted by: Jeff on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry
ah, but what came first? The dude is totally into vanity plates. In fact, his current license plate says #1soxfan (ever since his move to Boston). And he loves getting his own custom printed photo t-shirts of him giving the double-cobain to the camera. He obviously had an 111MZD plate made after learning/devising/encrypting its true meaning.
Posted by: Ryan on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry
Brent's license plate.
In response to: John Henry on 05-04-08 for Thought Industry
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Posted by: BlackRabbit on 01-03-10 about Clockmaker
Thanks for posting! I cannot take the credit for it though, Lonnie Butcher is the man with archive of Kzoo goodness. He sent me the MP3s, I was just the delivery boy.
I think you only need to click on the links and Dutch Mafia will be yours free of charge (but loaded with the hidden costs of non-stop lower-lip-biting)
Wow! Saw GHG @ Small Planet E.L. 95'ish? nothin' betta' than a stiff drink. Genious Hired Genious! Staying on task... Someone please help me D-load D. Mafia. Huge fan, please help. meyers5150@gmail.com Dig.
hey all my old band friends, i dont know if anyone remembers the bands i played in but i drummed in stoneface and cellfish with steve herwarth and chris berkey..... and of course i miss soda every day man.
Well shit damn, if we don't kiss each other's asses, whose gonna do it? It's not like we're rockin' 1000's of d/l's on itunes every month with the 1994 club soda catalog, so why not go directly to the well. Every time I google myself, it leads back to this site, so it can't be all that bad. Fuck, I'm awesome and cool, according to my good friends and acquaintences.
I love how Tom refers to Erin's ho-i-ness and goes on to beg for a modicum of class...that's fucking rich.
In response to: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 for all
having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd:
On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing.
Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"?
why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf?
please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you. --- end of previous message ---
Dan S. was a great drummer as well, and was the backbone behind the band for the formative years. Simple and to the point, ala Chris Mars. Listen to the songs posted and you'll see what I mean. color="silver">In response to: jim cherry on 08-30-09 for Fletcher
I thought this band was one of the best bands I'd ever seen when Paul Wartella was in it- Paul W was a close friend of mine and of all the bands he played in he told me this was his favorite band to play with- He had mad respect for Bryan Charles- I always thought Skip and Bryers should have started a band together- They would have been the Lennon/MacCartney of Kalamazoo-
I only saw this band 3 times but they were definately one of my favorite bands I'd ever seen --- end of previous message ---
thanks so much for sharing! I really enjoyed it. so much that I'll certainly try to download more of this music by http://www.picktorrent.com torrent search engine if I find it:) smth prompts me that I will, cause this resource is the best.
Posted by: Occasional Master Now in AZ on 12-10-09 about all
I always thought this site was just an excuse to get everyone from the web4insects board back together and commence with cock-suckery "Niche" is the operative term this is not the "Every fucking band to ever come from Kalamazoo site" it's a bunch of jackasses whom all know eachother. Odd that some people still don't "get it"
You can listen to the Cryonax songs here:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=771561
In response to: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 for all
hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls?
hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls?
>are you being, sigh, "ironic"? please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you."
Somebody got his heart broke? Sounds like some JUICY GOSSIP.
Yes there really is an unreleased TWITCH release. Fans/appreciators should desire it greatly. It's release (whether freely distributed or for $$) is awaiting executive order from Kevin Oberlin.
i honestly could not ask for a better embodiment of '90s Western Michigan music than leonstemple. (Is there really a twitch *full-length* that was recorded for RCA after the Medicine Ball ep?!? or did i mis-read..)
having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd:
On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing.
Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"?
why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf?
please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you.
I finally sat down and listened to the latest TASM LAB cd and dug it very much- i was actually impressed with the production & sound quality of the cd. I also thought the songs were better than the 1st cd- thumb up!!
I haven't been to your site for quite a long period of time and at last visited it! Needless to say, you are good at what you do, I always read all your articles with pleasure. With the numerous blogs, forums and social sites I usually find by means of http://rapid4me.com SE, it is not always easy to find really worthy info! Thanks!
I haven't been to your site for quite a long period of time and at last visited it! Needless to say, you are good at what you do, I always read all your articles with pleasure. With the numerous blogs, forums and social sites I usually find by means of http://rapid4me.com SE, it is not always easy to find really worthy info! Thanks!
When I Was King
The Length
Hope
Cande’s Sweetness
Sheila’s Glowing
Sweetest Kiss
Kind Of Like Love
Lousy Neighbor
Easy Bein’
Harvesting
When It’s Over
You Remind Me Of Yellow
Gonna Getcha Back
Buy You Clothes
Heartstopper
Man From Malta
Superfuel
Shuteye
Action Party
Death Valley Days
I Don’t Want To Follow
id actually love to hear that uno comp/deconstruction lp....been looking for that comp for years and no dice...
In response to: on 09-02-08 for Fletcher
thanks Rich. Maybe i'll get around to putting together Checker Records info for here and i'll send in the uno comp, inourselves/jihad and the never released Deconstruction LP.
In response to: rich on 08-27-08 for Fletcher
That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song.
In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher
i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days.
This may rival the radio spot for twitch at the State Theatre that sounded like an advertisement for a monster truck show.
In response to: Jeff Till on 10-19-09 for all
So Craig Verity sent me a tape he had of a WIDR show featuring pre-1993-Kalapalooza interviews with a group consisting of myself, Brent O, Chris Bryers, Charles Bradford, Willie Axe, and Dean Van Dyke. I had to turn it off three times because I felt so stupid. This crowd would make for a good bachelor party, but made a pretty boring and innane radio segment. I was a total waste, and I can even be smart and funny given the chance. Bryers did most of the talking and was the meanest of the bunch.
A big theme was "who got picked to play and who didn't" as it was asked of both the interviewer and a caller, to which Brent and others explained in great detail about ticket revenues and objectivity and blah blah. Let me clear it up: we were all friends; we lived in the same house for chrissakes.
Anyways, I'm not sure I'm going to post it. Maybe radio is temporary for a reason. --- end of previous message ---
So Craig Verity sent me a tape he had of a WIDR show featuring pre-1993-Kalapalooza interviews with a group consisting of myself, Brent O, Chris Bryers, Charles Bradford, Willie Axe, and Dean Van Dyke. I had to turn it off three times because I felt so stupid. This crowd would make for a good bachelor party, but made a pretty boring and innane radio segment. I was a total waste, and I can even be smart and funny given the chance. Bryers did most of the talking and was the meanest of the bunch.
A big theme was "who got picked to play and who didn't" as it was asked of both the interviewer and a caller, to which Brent and others explained in great detail about ticket revenues and objectivity and blah blah. Let me clear it up: we were all friends; we lived in the same house for chrissakes.
Anyways, I'm not sure I'm going to post it. Maybe radio is temporary for a reason.
what this guy said is SOOOO true- there was a very cool and diverse music scene in K-zoo during the early 90's- From Resin Mattress to the Jah Kings K-zoo had it all. Though... I heard that some of the people in certain bands ended up in a Mental Institution.. I'm not gonna name names cuz that's not cool- but suffice it to say they were in Grunge bands.
I was the drummer in Vegetable Soul all those years ago. Such good times, such a fertile music scene. Only in Kalamazoo could a band like us open for a band like Knee Deep Shag and have it work.
The Sinatras "Life In Flames" is now available on ITunes and Emusic. 21 tracks, including Action Party, Hope, Kind Of Like Love, I Don't Wanna Follow, Harvesting, and much much more!
Posted by: MISSOURITWIST on 10-05-09 about Thought Industry
UPLOADED THIS FOR FUN SOME THOUGHT INDUSTRY FROM 10 BELLS!SONGS CALLED "SEE YOU"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxzsW9bPWQ
In response to: dan on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too.
-just sayin
In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Bill Millmine on 09-29-09 about Rollinghead
I use to work with Dave Grant at the KIA and watch Rollinghead/Deadriverdrag play at Club-Soda all the time. Rollinghead is one of my most listend to cd's still today. I wish I could have been there to see them again.
I played Bass for the Bremmens and have a lot of fond memories of the music scene back in the day.
We would be kickin in walls at Lovell street house to Thought Industry, then be trippin at the God Bullies place and end up toaking our way back Oak street to jam with Maureen and Adam and the Bremmens clan all night long.
Yep. It's true. Sinatras are playing OCTOBER 10, 2009 at Bell's. It will cost you all of three dollars. It may or may not be the last Sinatras show before Scott and i move away, too. Seriously. So come on out. There will be limited-edition product. Yep. You heard me. PRODUCT. Cleaned up and prettified and put on a CD with cover art and everything. It's not all their stuff, but it's a nice 21-song collection of old and new. And, for now, it's only available at the show. so show up. WHOOP!
I enjoyed Thought Industry very much and I think that they were very talented and original. But going to a show and watching Brent walk around before they perform and refuse to acknowledge anyone speaking to him was hilarious to watch. I'm surprised he didnt have a few bodyguards with him to rough up anyone who got too close to him. And looking at the posts on this site it doesnt surprise me that he had the attitude that he did. Everyone seems to have a story about how Brent looked at them or how he was only 100 feet away from them back in 92. Oh boy how exciting Brent ignored me one night. you guys are name dropping people who arent even remotely famous!!
In response to: Jim Cherry the Daffy Duck dipshit on 09-02-09 for Owsla
to Jeff Till - my hats off you to. Check and mate GAME OVER! I'm the Daffy Duck to your Bugs Bunny- Duck Season! RABBIT SEASON! Duck Season! RABBIT SEASON! Rabbit Season! DUCK SEASON FIRE! and BOOM!!! you blew my Duck bill right off my face. I get it now- so... I'm supposed to say "I got PUNKED by Jeff Till- Hook line and sinker! You played me like a Fender Bass and I fell into your web of pranksterness. I bow to your higher intellect.
I will say that in my defense the whole reason I was fooled by what you were saying is because back in the day everyone in Kalamazoo always said you were the biggest asshole they ever met. You played the part so well recently that even I fell for it- Kudos to you Mr. Till- I think this is the most fun your web-site has seen in a while- heh??
ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too.
-just sayin
In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message ---
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar.
Jim Cherry hates Chris Bryers and thinks he sucks it. So sad. Why do you hate Chris so? Some people who visit this site think Chris is good musician, singer and songwriter. Perhaps you should just go back to your Creed albums or whatever if you despise Bryers so much. Thanks in advance.
You can be mean, Jim, it just has to be funny too. If you are critical and genuine, even while paying extensive fellatiating back-hand compliments, people will mistake you for being sensitive and intraspective. And then no one will sleep with you. Sorry.
In further defense of Owsla, the posted tracks are unfinished demos with scratch vocals (no reverb even) that aren't presented as a finished release, but more as curios for us collectors and fans. Chris had urged me not to post them, but I insisted.
Jim: If you don't have something nice to say... I only saw Owsla play once, and only less Cathartic than "kiss me mary anne" was an incredible version of "The Beautiful Ones" which was as good as I've seen Chris or anyone else do in kzoo. So there. But, really, Chris is so cook that he even has rebound bands. Ghost Stories is indeed cool (and hopefully more to come here soon)
Joby: When your slow leak launch is done, put a package together and we'll post and promote and share here.
these songs rocked the hair off my balls and made me blow it in my pants! This kid has picked up the Rock mantle that Chris Bryers put down. Kudos to Joby and his band!
just when you think he's made his best Album he comes out with another one to top it- Ghost Stories is THE SHIT! anyone who liked his last Album (Hazel and the Black Rabbit) will not be disapointed with this new Album "Ghost Stories". I've been listening to it non stop for the last 3 days and it's the kind of Album that just keeps getting better and better- just when i think I have a favorite song another one will just hit me and I'll be blown away again and again- this kid has an endless well of talent to write great songs- he's truly gifted
I thought this band was one of the best bands I'd ever seen when Paul Wartella was in it- Paul W was a close friend of mine and of all the bands he played in he told me this was his favorite band to play with- He had mad respect for Bryan Charles- I always thought Skip and Bryers should have started a band together- They would have been the Lennon/MacCartney of Kalamazoo-
I only saw this band 3 times but they were definately one of my favorite bands I'd ever seen
uhh... yeah... all I remember about Owsla was that I drove 6 hrs round trip from Saginaw (with my then new girlfriend) and all the way to K-zoo I was telling her about my friend Chris Bryers who was the shit & rocked my world in a band called TWITCH-
Bryers came up to me after the show and asked me what I thought about the show and being the honest friend that I am I told him the truth- "I want me 4 bucks back since I wasn't on the guest list. It was alright... I mean... It didn't suck or anything but... it wasn't what I wanted to hear- It didn't move me"
I just listend to these songs you've got posted and I'm still not impressed- sorry... and I'm Bryers biggest fan next to maybe Jobi P- I just felt like Owsla was a rebound band until he could find his groove again- and then SLEET came out later and I thought- yup! he's back.
so there it is... Owsla was like that girl you dated after a big break up because you were afraid of being alone.
the thing is- Bryers is such a grreat song writer that even his mediocure stuff STILL sounds awsome to most people- but I'm not most people... so...
his new Album "Ghost Stories" is amazing - ALL of his solo stuff is just incredible- check it out if you haven't already.
My band "The Soft Takeover" has a new CD coming out soon and I am currently posting one song a day on our MySpace til' they are all up check em' out if you have a chance! http://www.myspace.com/thesofttakeover
You can send photos to me at cool @ leons temple . com ( remove spaces). There are hundreds on facebook right now too which I might snitch. Apparently some people have digital cameras integrated into their cellies
I'd love to see your photos...post 'em here if you can or shoot me an email. john.huff@gmail.com
In response to: Banks on 08-16-09 for Rollinghead
yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ??? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
I too would love to see photos. Any chance someone can post them to Flickr or somewhere public and link to theM?
I'd love to see your photos...post 'em here if you can or shoot me an email. john.huff@gmail.com
In response to: Banks on 08-16-09 for Rollinghead
yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ??? --- end of previous message ---
It was so much fun the music and great to see so many people I probably otherwise wouldn't have seen in one place ever again. Time warp back to 1993! What is the name of the song Mike Roche got up and played with them? Stars? I love that song - can't remember the name of it though. --- end of previous message ---
It was so much fun the music and great to see so many people I probably otherwise wouldn't have seen in one place ever again. Time warp back to 1993! What is the name of the song Mike Roche got up and played with them? Stars? I love that song - can't remember the name of it though.
My favorite band of all time! I think Chris Bryers is an amazing artist! Charles memoir says it all~I feel truly lucky to have heard this band and felt them, as well! Thank you, Owsla!
Rollinghead show was great, couldn't walk six feet without running into somebody. My favorite comment of the night was from Dave James "I'm not at all surprised to see you here" haha the sound guy left something to be desired but they still undeniably have it. Cameos by Roche, Charlie (impromptu albeit) and Bryers. A little warm out there with such a flippin huge crowd but Oberon was had on the cheap. A great time wish there were more like it more often.
yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ???
it was 1993 all over again. despite some early guitar tuning trouble, the show went off w/o a hitch. the band seemed tight and sounded as if they hadn't taken a 15 year break. they were very grateful (and seemed surprised) at the number of people in attendance. we had to wait 20 minutes at the door as the doorman said they were at capacity. we had about 25 people in line behind us. the crowd was into it, the music was great, and the weather was perfect. well worth my $7 cover. thanks bill, dave, dave, dean, and willy! when's the new album come out???
Posted by: Andy and Robin TenBrink on 08-12-09 about Rollinghead
Hey Dean and Amy,
Same comment as everyone else....can't believe that Robin and I were in Bell's and say the flyer for Rolling head!! Can't believe we came 2500 miles for a beer at Bell's. One weekend too early. Find us on facebook if your up for it.
Andy
In response to: Dean on 07-16-09 for Rollinghead
Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Elvis Karate on 08-07-09 about Rollinghead
Mike Roche, Dave Grant where was my frickn't e-mail or phone call about this gig. I had to learn about if from the bathroom wall at Bell's. I was supposed to race the mideast Triathlon Championships in Kentucky on the 15th. I think my team will be one light. I gotta go see Rollinghead. I just hope they don't Suck :)
PS Dean and Dave looking forward to seeing you guys after 20 years. The Drysdales say hello.
Noah - feel free to write your own Top 10 list and put Cam up there at #2. Maybe 'best musicians' or 'most vocal insomniacs'. Or maybe best 'drummer + guitarist', which, besides Cam and Mike, include Halsey (Thumper), Ron Muniz, myself (others?)
Geoff - weren't the Helmet guys all reputedly music school fags, covorting with the likes of John Zorn..? I have a vague memory of the urban legend.
This is really funny to me, and I figured might be funny to this group too.
Out here in Portland, there's a farm that hosts cheap, family friendly entertainment on Thursdays during the summer. You bring a blanket and a picnic, walk around and pick blueberries, go for hay rides, chase roosters, bump elbows with Portland's breeding contingent.
On a recent visit, we enjoyed a 30's era jazz group that featured Henry Bogdan, original bassist for Helmet playing Hawaiian steel guitar. I don't even know where to start the ironic commentary, there are so many directions to come at it, so I'll leave you all to your own imaginations and say that it was more wholesome than you could possibly imagine.
How does Cam Taylor NOT make a top 10 guitarist list? I know! It's because he rocks the fucking drums just as hard...outside of Roche that guy's the best fucking musician Kalamazoo has ever seen.
This is really funny to me, and I figured might be funny to this group too.
Out here in Portland, there's a farm that hosts cheap, family friendly entertainment on Thursdays during the summer. You bring a blanket and a picnic, walk around and pick blueberries, go for hay rides, chase roosters, bump elbows with Portland's breeding contingent.
On a recent visit, we enjoyed a 30's era jazz group that featured Henry Bogdan, original bassist for Helmet playing Hawaiian steel guitar. I don't even know where to start the ironic commentary, there are so many directions to come at it, so I'll leave you all to your own imaginations and say that it was more wholesome than you could possibly imagine.
it's a cover. as are most of them. tho they're charming.
In response to: Craniac on 07-25-09 for all
"The Good Doctor" page isn't working. I'm inquiring about the song "Me and Devil"; is it original? A local band in this small town played it last Halloween, and I should have just asked them. Anyone? --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: BlackRabbit on 07-26-09 about Killswitch
After watching a very informative programs on the lives of civets, I have come to the conclusion your hint was a hoax.
If it were not a matter of dire import that he be found, I would have given up the search long ago.
His half of the Krugerrands will not bury themselves,and though I could find alternative buskers to fill his position in the traveling show, I just cannot convince myself it would be the same.
He needs to know that I have captured C. Haskey, and have brought him here to my desert of desserts, but I have already delved deeper into dangerous details than is decorous.
"The Good Doctor" page isn't working. I'm inquiring about the song "Me and Devil"; is it original? A local band in this small town played it last Halloween, and I should have just asked them. Anyone?
Wish I planned my kzoo trip for later in the summer. This would be a great show to catch. Anyone who nabs this gig is in for a super-snack! Have fun you lucky bastards! Xoxo-hutchy(ptown-OR)
Posted by: Shauna Bommerscheim-Schrader on 07-22-09 about Rollinghead
This means you'll be there right? Girl, are you back in town? It seems like someone/something tells me you are around. I would love to see you and hopefully you'll be at the show. We have lots of friends coming into town for this show and I can hardly wait! Do you have digits/info on Leslie? I would love to see you guys. Peace....Shauna
Posted by: Angela Carrion (formerly Pollack) on 07-19-09 about Rollinghead
I almost fell out of my seat when I saw the flyer re: show @ Bells. My girl Les and I have known Mr. Axe since high school and remain big fans of Rollinghead. Les burned me a copy of LBF some months ago and have been enjoying ever since. Can't wait to see who will turn up @ show...Tom Griffoen? Andrew F. Bennett? Tom Fuller? (Hey dude you need to call me!) Road I? Charlie? Steven Chamberlin, I AM CALLING YOU OUT! Let me know if you want a gig in Saugatuck. Xoxxo
Posted by: eternal motivator on 06-23-09 about Killswitch
jim jones is still missing by design.
you can often times find him on television and radio giving the community at large a solid tongue lashing/invitation.
i believe he finds hiding in plain sight the premier therapy for his orbital hip-bone.
i can only suggest watching the discovery or documentary channels in the near future to find his hidden port o' call.
Posted by: Colin H. on 06-23-09 about Club Soda calendars
actually, I have quite a few more. maybe I can work out a deal with Joby to get the old ones back in exchange for some more. Perhaps in a year or two! lol
I would love to score Straw Village's "Living Here in Kalamazoo".
Anyone have this to upload? Nothing like the verse "chasing stray cats down an alley with a torch.
Posted by: A Second Cousin.. on 05-31-09 about all
Jason Fortier, We have never but i just found out that you are my second cousin. My mom is Elizabeth Johnston. Its cool as hell to think i have a family member in a band. I think ive met brooke when she visited my grandparents in TN. Anyway im now on the search for your CD. If you ever get a chance email me...BentleyZMommy@Gmail.com
Posted by: Shinerod on 05-25-09 about Obtrusive Mode
Yes! The anal birth of Bert rules...
In response to: DuG on 05-18-09 for Obtrusive Mode
like when Ben Wessell gave everyone the full monty in G.R., good times... or the underwear party, or the puppet show with Dave giving birth to a muppet. meth is a hell of a drug.
In response to: ben w. on 05-17-09 for Obtrusive Mode
i still think hog was better --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
like when Ben Wessell gave everyone the full monty in G.R., good times... or the underwear party, or the puppet show with Dave giving birth to a muppet. meth is a hell of a drug.
In response to: ben w. on 05-17-09 for Obtrusive Mode
i still think hog was better --- end of previous message ---
Hey you sweet folks. I feel like that kid at the 4th Coast counter, cornering you about his band, so... check out my band.
Minutes is a new Kalamazoo band featuring members of at least 4 bands on the list below, including a few other Kzoo bands and several Dischord bands. Members have also collectively worked at Harvey's, Club Soda, The Space, and Kraftbrau. It doesn't get more Kalamazoo than that.
Wow, was coming of age in the early nineties, visiting Kzoo to see TI, GHG and Twitch among others, then moved there. Haven't seen a scene like it since. Honest, intelligent, melodic metal. Hail satan.
I was sort of thinking that a few hours I posted the info. Please apply all dork/nerdlinger comments to Spaeth instead of Paul. Paul would've worn his "fuck art, let's kill" shirt and made his ass cheeks talk a la Ace Ventura In response to: the pro co rat on 04-26-09 for all
that's steve spaeth in the TI photo, not NZO. must be one of the first TI shows- maybe the same one as the 'chalice vermillion' video on youtube? --- end of previous message ---
Here Brent what? Burp? Talk about the nuances of managing a bar/grill, or how to comply with inter-state tax codes, or how to tune a guitar whilst playing it? Yea, we get to hear Brent plenty here in Boston.
I just ordered it at Amazon for $11 new. I will submit a book report when I'm done reading it. In response to: amy on 04-10-09 for King Tammy
Darrin's book "Revenge of the Teacher's Pet" is out now and available, at least on line and at Michigan News. he did a reading last night at WMU's Little Theater. I grabbed a copy last night and have started the first chapter. God love him, it's just what you would hope a King Tammyman fine-tuning and super-charging his craft would come up with. So far, a great blend of humor, sadness, sweetness and straight-up weirdness. "I LOVE EGGS" appears in the first paragraph. GIT IT! --- end of previous message ---
Darrin's book "Revenge of the Teacher's Pet" is out now and available, at least on line and at Michigan News. he did a reading last night at WMU's Little Theater. I grabbed a copy last night and have started the first chapter. God love him, it's just what you would hope a King Tammyman fine-tuning and super-charging his craft would come up with. So far, a great blend of humor, sadness, sweetness and straight-up weirdness. "I LOVE EGGS" appears in the first paragraph. GIT IT!
In response to: Jeffs top ten songs on 11-13-07 for Top 10
"Bass Player Body Parts" is the top 10 scheduled for December. We're going to get those nice tits in there for sure. Right between Fortier's single dread, Chuck's pumpkin, and Bill's metal claw. In response to: Erin Dwight on 11-11-07 for Top 10
Yeah, Police Riot Midgets' bass player totally rocks, she is also super fuckin' hott. Nice tits. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
I'm afraid we've completely forgotten both Sludge Butts and Cumsludge. This may irreconcilable In response to: J. Keyser on 03-28-09 for contribute info
Don't forget the following bands...all around 1990-93
Posted by: formerly known as robin sussex on 03-24-09 about Club Soda calendars
PLEASE specify WHICH robin was crowd surfing without panties. I am told that I now have a growing fan base! This was brought to my attention by a co worker/aka local rocker. To those of you who care, I really miss the majority of the bands that played at soda and the band members. This was a part of my life that I will always cherish, despite the way it ended. glad to hear you guys are still rockin' sorry though, you wont see this robin crowd surfing at your show, ha ha. hope none of you hate me for what happened to jeff, i tried to stop it, but he wouldnt listen. later people
In response to: Jeff on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars
21?? I thought you were like 40 at the time. I presume Robin was wearing a skirt and not pants, else the pantie thing wouldn't have made much of a difference. What happened to her panties? (A: she smoked them) In response to: kiry on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars
alice donut and didjits on my 21st birthday...oh those were the days....robin crowd surfing with no panties?...classic --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: formerly known as robin sussex on 03-24-09 about Club Soda calendars
PLEASE specify WHICH robin was crowd surfing without panties. I am told that I now have a growing fan base! This was brought to my attention by a co worker/aka local rocker. To those of you who care, I really miss the majority of the bands that played at soda and the band members. This was a part of my life that I will always cherish, despite the way it ended. glad to hear you guys are still rockin' sorry though, you wont see this robin crowd surfing at your show, ha ha. hope none of you hate me for what happened to jeff, i tried to stop it, but he wouldnt listen. later people
mpcoccan anybody tell me, if those "demo clips from (what would have been) the next thought industry album" are ever goin to be proper songs and will be released? because this stuff is flaming!
Reminding you that The Sinatras will be performing live on
WIDR's "The Basement Show" Monday, March 9th.
The show starts at 7:00pm.
Steam it live at http://www.widr.org
Posted by: the kap'n on 02-24-09 about Club Soda calendars
Confuse a Cat were approachable. At one show, I glommed on to one of the band members, all excited by the Python reference... he didn't seem to mind at all. Detroit bands seemed (seem) to come in two variations, great mates or total assholes.Jabberwock (I think the calendar listing is a misspelling, I'm too lazy to dig up my proof right now) deserve to be listed under "Leppotone itself"... I think they'd be surprised to be found listed as/with "Weekenders"!Sinatras played at least a couple of shows with Jabberwock. I found out, quite belatedly, that they'd pressed a small-hole 7" single on the Leppotone imprint, which carries the same label # as the debut Sinatras 7". I was totally unaware of the abandoned release (and I'm unclear as to why it went unreleased) until I worked with T Gregor at Flipside in '98... he showed up one night with copies of the damn thing! We decided to sell about half a dozen double-packs of both LT-002 singles as a 2-fer super-cheap, wish you were there!At any rate, Tony went on to Monster Zero with Matt S., if I'm not mistaken. I'm not mistaken that the two of them were 2/3 of the Rural Electrification Act, a superb trio on whose CD I would have played keys if I hadn't been in new-dad mode, not willing to take on extra recording duties... I still remember turning Matt down on the phone... having heard the resulting CD, I regret the decision. RIP REA.
In response to: Carl on 02-19-09 for Club Soda calendars
Confuse a Cat was out of Detroit. Think they were a 3 piece(maybe 4) with at least one female. Can't be positive on that one. They were real approachable people though and I believe I still have their 7" in storage someplace. --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Alan Bainbridge on 02-22-09 about everything
As far as The Deconstruction's album, We broke up before it every could be released. As far as I know the DAT's got stolen or lost. All that was left were cassette copies which Scott Towne had preserved to CD a few years ago. It was a nine song album called "Light Yourself On Fire".
In response to: Deconstructor on 02-03-09 for everything
WHERE'S THE "LOST" DECONSTRUCTION RECORD????!!!! HUH? --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Carl on 02-19-09 about Club Soda calendars
Confuse a Cat was out of Detroit. Think they were a 3 piece(maybe 4) with at least one female. Can't be positive on that one. They were real approachable people though and I believe I still have their 7" in storage someplace.
Posted by: Master on 02-18-09 about Club Soda calendars
I think there is a movie idea somewhere in hanging Jared's burger wrapper on your wall. I would see it like "wilson" in Cast Away. In response to: dan k. on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars
I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars
dan k., damn that's a touching post. you said it all.
In response to: dan k. on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars
I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: dan k. on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars
I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle
Posted by: Jeff on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars
21?? I thought you were like 40 at the time. I presume Robin was wearing a skirt and not pants, else the pantie thing wouldn't have made much of a difference. What happened to her panties? (A: she smoked them) In response to: kiry on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars
alice donut and didjits on my 21st birthday...oh those were the days....robin crowd surfing with no panties?...classic --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Colin H on 02-16-09 about Club Soda calendars
FYI, Excepting the one with the big black TBA s, these calanders were drawn up by Tom Kennedy, the one time Soda barmaster extraordinare. I believe the TBA one was done by another soda bartender, John DeRyke. Thanks to Joby and Jeff for getting these up and calming my fears that they were used for lighting the charcoal at some drunken BBQ. Cheers!
people imitating (or posing as) jim cherry? if you told me 15 years ago that in 2009, many years after jim was gone, people would be posing as him on the internetz, i would have believed you.
jim, you're a star man. love you brother.
i know i was never part of the inner circle in kalamzoo... but i thought i would add my band here anyway.
myspace.com/jehovahswitnessprotectionprogram
from one shithole to another... kalamazoo to ypsilanti. kalamazoo smelled better.
people imitating (or posing as) jim cherry? if you told me 15 years ago that in 2009, many years after jim was gone, people would be posing as him on the internetz, i would have believed you.
jim, you're a star man. love you brother.
i know i was never part of the inner circle in kalamzoo... but i thought i would add my band here anyway.
myspace.com/jehovahswitnessprotectionprogram
from one shithole to another... kalamazoo to ypsilanti. kalamazoo smelled better.
Really awesome stuff! I love Brent's voice, and the whole thing just sounds insane in a good (but nearly literal) way. Wish they put out more stuff... and I wish there was official lyrics to this! I know what's being said about... eh.... 75% of the time, but would love to know what the actual lyrics were, as thought industry's lyrics were always really cool in a stream-of-conscious way. :)
Posted by: Rebecca and Pete Markus on 02-10-09 about Rollinghead
This is a great day! Thank you for this site and the music! We loved going to Rollinghead shows in K-zoo circa 1992 and before! LOVE the music LOVE the vocals! Good thing we are "Not too damn old for this!" Thanks again and again and agin!
I don't think the library copies are replacements, and I think it is a bully fine idea to have the materials there.
I thought my use of the term 'quaint' was accurate and considerate though. It means (from the dictionary): "Charmingly odd, especially in an old-fashioned way".
While whomever is at the library, be sure to bookmark the 'temple on the library's computers.
Thanks Joby, I will get them up. You are a valued servant to the scene (Obama talk).
For the record - I would not want to consider library loans to be replacements for the finds on this site... why should they not go together?,.. I mean, Western Union still exists...
In response to: the kap'n on 02-08-09 for all
In response to: Jeff Master on 02-06-09 for all
Gee, sorry it seems quaint for libraries to want to make (questionably) historical material available to people who don't have access to internet download privileges... or did everyone here forget what it was like to not be able to afford certain tools and networks of communication that allowed one to get at what they wanted when they wanted? People who own beat-to-hell Discmans, who still want to hear the sounds of bands who they might have seen, or heard of through their friends, or PARENTS, or parents' FRIENDS, do indeed borrow materials through the "quaint" services of their public library, and, since they're not flying any rocket ships today or tomorrow, enjoy seeing and hearing the genuine artifacts of "Girth" or "Daddyhorse" or etc., liners, graphics, and all. Didn't think asking for more was an archaic, or even rude, request.
Also - one can be anonymous at Leppotone now, so feel free to fire ammo there anon'ly if the site doesn't acknowledge your desire to be present there (why would it if you're not going to Outback?). Truly, I'm not to be trusted as a rep of any site or clique, so caveats if it seems I was "calling" anyone out on behalf of Leppotone, as anyone trawling there knows that site's full of all kinds of fuckin' foolishness. Personally, I'm really just trying to get the LT site's "clique"'s scene fully represented among the materials available at a lending library that serves a populace that still lives in the city that cared about most of you once upon a time (and do perhaps still, regardless of your exotic domestic locales now and in the future), and would be happy to have your hard-copy artifacts among its collection.
JM - I'm no Lepposite master - but if you need - as D. Boon suggested- a "validation" - I can vouch for ya... consider that a fine how d'ya do, fuckface! --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Gee, sorry it seems quaint for libraries to want to make (questionably) historical material available to people who don't have access to internet download privileges... or did everyone here forget what it was like to not be able to afford certain tools and networks of communication that allowed one to get at what they wanted when they wanted? People who own beat-to-hell Discmans, who still want to hear the sounds of bands who they might have seen, or heard of through their friends, or PARENTS, or parents' FRIENDS, do indeed borrow materials through the "quaint" services of their public library, and, since they're not flying any rocket ships today or tomorrow, enjoy seeing and hearing the genuine artifacts of "Girth" or "Daddyhorse" or etc., liners, graphics, and all. Didn't think asking for more was an archaic, or even rude, request.
Also - one can be anonymous at Leppotone now, so feel free to fire ammo there anon'ly if the site doesn't acknowledge your desire to be present there (why would it if you're not going to Outback?). Truly, I'm not to be trusted as a rep of any site or clique, so caveats if it seems I was "calling" anyone out on behalf of Leppotone, as anyone trawling there knows that site's full of all kinds of fuckin' foolishness. Personally, I'm really just trying to get the LT site's "clique"'s scene fully represented among the materials available at a lending library that serves a populace that still lives in the city that cared about most of you once upon a time (and do perhaps still, regardless of your exotic domestic locales now and in the future), and would be happy to have your hard-copy artifacts among its collection.
JM - I'm no Lepposite master - but if you need - as D. Boon suggested- a "validation" - I can vouch for ya... consider that a fine how d'ya do, fuckface! --- end of previous message ---
So far we've only had a few imposters, so I'm not too concerned yet. The really old TI board had them so badly it had to be shut down.
Leppotone uses sign ons, (oddly, my account was never validated, let me in guys!) I decided not to use one so that people could post more easily and hopefully more.
Not to be flip, but being available for loan at the library seems a bit quaint compared to downloadable for free everywhere on line. It's like getting a new buggywhip for your rocket ship.
Steffen, does 'flaming' mean 'good' in Denmark?? After all of the homo references on Mods, we should be precise...
Looks like Leppotone is calling out Leons Temple. They must have serious discussion over there.
In response to: the kap'n on 02-06-09 for all
Well, the music and memorabilia found on this site are swell, but the foolishness goin' on in the "discussion" makes it embarrassing to post anything legit.
The liberry really does want real deal CDs as released by their makers, whenever you want. --- end of previous message ---
Well, the music and memorabilia found on this site are swell, but the foolishness goin' on in the "discussion" makes it embarrassing to post anything legit.
The liberry really does want real deal CDs as released by their makers, whenever you want.
Posted by: Steffen add killorama.de on 02-06-09 about Thought Industry
can anybody tell me, if those "demo clips from (what would have been) the next thought industry album" are ever goin to be proper songs and will be released? because this stuff is flaming!
from now on anyone who says there name is Jim Cherry is full of dookie. period. I will no longer use my REAL name on this site so anyone using the name Jim Cherry is fu*cking with someone. Now I'm just pissed.
so once again... I will NOT use my real name anymore on this site so anyone using the name Jim Cherry is a liar. Don't pay attention to them.
I'll give anyone tons of cash if they tell me who this imposter is so I can beat him with a pillow full of soap bars.
I STILL have so many stalkers from being a famous ROCK STAR that I'm now worried I have a Chapman on my hands...
I was never in a car accident and I didn't get any money from a settelment.
whoever it is they broke the rules and now I'm gonna break someone's nose.
Posted by: the REAL JIM CHERRY on 02-05-09 about all
In all honesty I got pretty darn worked up, and I still have butt breath. Interestingly enough, I'm now inspired by this prankster (Kiry? Yorgo?) to release some kind of Doxie CD anthology. The courts recently awarded me a big chunk of change for a car accident last year. I'm okay. No worries. Geoff, lets get together on this. SHAZAM!!!
In response to: Master on 02-04-09 for all
OK everybody, no pretending to be someone else. It is part of the rules.
Rule 2: Make jokes really obvious and easy to get, like "I'm Jim Cherry and I like to kiss and sniff my own butt".
And a Doxie DVD isn't too far out there. please consider that you've been solicited, with all seriousness, to pose questions to Dusty Donalds and reprint lyrics to Locomotive God. --- end of previous message ---
OK everybody, no pretending to be someone else. It is part of the rules.
Rule 2: Make jokes really obvious and easy to get, like "I'm Jim Cherry and I like to kiss and sniff my own butt".
And a Doxie DVD isn't too far out there. please consider that you've been solicited, with all seriousness, to pose questions to Dusty Donalds and reprint lyrics to Locomotive God.
Posted by: the REAL JIM CHERRY on 02-04-09 about all
yes this is a JOKE- Someone is pulling your leg man... unless someone has my name too... but I doubt it. I suggest someone find out who it is and tell them to stop folling around. I can't imagine why someone would want to do this other than to get access to information from you guys.... anyway... Joby Purucker knows how to contact me-
I guess I'll have to come up with a code name now like... Billy Batson from SHAZAM!!!!!
Posted by: the real Jim Cherry on 02-04-09 about all
uh... who the heck is pretending to be me??? Bryers just told me someone is using my name... it's not me so... I don't know why someone would do this...but stop it or I will be forced to get my posse together and come find whoever you are and give you a lick in the face with my nasty butt breath- SHAZAM!!!
Geoff, I'm not cutting you out of this deal, my man. I love Doxie! In fact, your sister knows all about it. She's the one who sent me the outtakes.
And Karl, I'll be in town next week. I will be bringing by some choice jams from K'zoo's glory days. See you soon.
In response to: Geoffrey on 01-31-09 for all
"
Is this a joke? I was gonna put together a Doxie Facebook page and realized that there's like 5 photos of us playing live (that I own) and a poor quality video of a show at Soda (we were never very good archivists). I figured I'd send anyone looking for the songs to this site. After reviewing what I had to work with, it was looking like my vanity page would end up pretty thin, so I kinda didn't put up a Doxie FB page. So now I see this talk of interviews and concert footage - I'm excited, I didn't know such things existed. Maybe I'll get to create my page after all and garner all the respect that I so richly deserve...Um Jim, we need to discuss royalties. --- end of previous message ---
Jim is half right. I don't recall chatting with the history prof, tho' I may have, and forgot, no offense to Dr. Hyland (who, if reading, should note that, while professionally otherwise, I'm a rocker, memory loss and all). However, I've been trying to get a decent collection of local music, regardless of vintage, available for loan at the KPLiberry for, oh, a decade-plus now. (The Doxie CD, by the way, was donated to us by a certain Paul R. half a decade ago - it goes out quite a bit, but always comes back, not always the case for other bands' releases I find at Goodwills, buy and donate, then the liberry loses - privacy laws prevent me from revealing thieves' names, but I know who you are/were.)
I've been half-assed about asking those trawling around these parts - could we please have your CD? (We have a bunch... check the catalog to see if you're an author search, akin to John Updike and Bryan Charles!) The liberry doesn't want T's and flyers, etc. - we're not interested in archiving, we're interested in making work available for borrowing. Has to be a CD at this point. Which means we need special releases from FAQ, Catharsis, VA, etc. We've accepted CD-R's... just give us some nice artwork... liners are a bonus. It's your history.
By the way, at least one of those bands of "standup dudes" invited the smallish audience attending a show the Sinatras headlined out to a party immediately after their opening set, wiping out much of our audience, since the band was much more "user-friendly" than we three. Thanks! "I know that you're leaving, as soon as you get paaaaid"- Nirvana, "Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle"
In response to: Geoffrey on 01-31-09 for all Is this a joke?
Jim Cherry wrote:
... there is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music... working with K*rl from the Sinatras who is helping put together a similar collection at the public library.
"...making the case for the likes of MOM HANDY and THE ERJ to be included in our hot beer cotillion. I was going to let GEOFF HALSEY make these decisions, as a clique has to have boundaries to be a proper clique..."
Yeah, I was draggin my feet a little on this one I guess, but now that you've created a new category, I say why not? 15 years later I think we're all old and experienced enough to acknowledge that some pretty fundamental differences existed between bands like THE ERJ and bands like TWITCH, but I remember most of those guys and they were always standup dudes and deserve to be included.
"...I'm putting out a Doxie retrospective DVD full of candid interviews, concert footage and behind-the-scenes mayhem....Western's library and K'zoo public library are taking a bunch off my hands. Can you believe it? There is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music..."
Is this a joke? I was gonna put together a Doxie Facebook page and realized that there's like 5 photos of us playing live (that I own) and a poor quality video of a show at Soda (we were never very good archivists). I figured I'd send anyone looking for the songs to this site. After reviewing what I had to work with, it was looking like my vanity page would end up pretty thin, so I kinda didn't put up a Doxie FB page. So now I see this talk of interviews and concert footage - I'm excited, I didn't know such things existed. Maybe I'll get to create my page after all and garner all the respect that I so richly deserve...Um Jim, we need to discuss royalties.
Muchas gracias, my friend. I'm pressing up 100. Western's library and K'zoo public library are taking a bunch off my hands. Can you believe it? There is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music. Ch*fe put him in touch with me. His name is Roger Hyland, and he's also working with K*rl from the Sinatras who is helping put together a similar collection at the public library. I think they will be contacting you real soon. They want everything from flyers to old VHS stuff to t-shirts.
As for the "lost album," Halsey doesn't want it to be a CD-R. He wants to do a real sweet release with liner notes and old photos. I told him he should do picture disc. Ha ha.
In response to: Jeff Master on 01-29-09 for all
Jim, let us know if you need any ground support or air coverage on 'temple. it is yours to use. Big announcements, fancy banners, launch party.
I imagine it would be good to release the unreleased album too with the package.
By "first 50 copies" don't you mean "all the copies"? --- end of previous message ---
Heads up everyone: I'm putting out a Doxie retrospective DVD full of candid interviews, concert footage and behind-the-scenes mayhem. Should be a lot of fun. First 50 copies will come with CD-R of the group's aborted EP collab with InOurselves. This is really intense, kind of like Weezer meets Tool.
Stealing neighbors WiFi Right Now... Up-Or-Downloading is not an option at the moment. Febrauary 8th I'll return to the intrawebs and all it's glory instead of updating my facebook with slightly better than dial-up speed...
Yeah, now that you refresh my memory I do, in fact, recall something about a broken toe/foot and a stool. That whole gig was madness. I'm not sure why the paper didn't get spread around more...Danny Boy and Opus may have been aware of it and held off, or might have stayed behind and enjoyed...I honestly don't remember any more. Was definitely a good time, though.
Unfortunately after I left town in '94 I pretty much lost touch with everyone. Dumb move, really, but I was trying to 'do the right thing.' Probably would have been better off if I'd stayed in town. Then again, I might well be dead by now, and I'd have missed some fairly cool things. Haven't heard anything out of Dan or Opus or Matt in a decade and a half, and nobody seems to know what happened to ol' Davey "Manson" H. after Suiciety broke up and he split.
F'n Stoops', man. If I ever get rich I am so buying that building. Even though it's a horrible investment property and needs hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of work to be made anything but an unheated furniture warehouse.
Didn't Brad come down and take promo photos of us at one point? Wonder whatever happened to those. Or all those tapes Jimmy Black is probably still sitting on. We must have taped pretty near every time we picked up instruments - seems like something would have survived *somewhere* other than on my one badly-weathered and half-taped over video.
As far as "managing" anything or anyone about that band, including myself...it was a fun exercise in futility, but still a futile one lol. Still, it gave me something to do between periods of my own playing (much like my late-90's excursion into the pro wrestling business - I actually got a Thank You on the WWE 2-Disc OMEGA DVD, I'm all famous and shit now), and I don't care what Overjef says I still think you guys were kicking out some of the most energetic, ass-kicking tunes around. "Eternal Dream" and "Freedom" and the "last time I'll ever do this" song that I can never remember the name of...face-ripping covers of Janes and Motorhead and Cheap Trick and even ol' Gordon Lightfoot for the love of pete.
Then again I was always more into the straight-ahead "heavy blues-based rock" (™ Matthew "Cap'n Ron (Jeremy)" Bogema) a'la Pearl Jam/Soundgarden, where it seemed like most of the local scene was either more punk/hardcore or more art/prog than what I was personally in to. It's nice to be able to say 'yeah, I can play 64th-note ride cymbal patterns at 320bpm,' but for me it was always about the groove, the heart and soul underneath all the noise. Far as I'm concerned, that's requirement number one - not to say that musicianship is unimportant, but if all you do is play fast with no feeling, you're fuckin' Yngwie Malmsteen, ya know? Which great, guy's got his niche, but I get off harder on the solo break from "Reach Down" by TotD than on Malmsteen's entire career, just because you could tell they were playing from their hearts rather than their brains or their dicks.
Didn't either you guys and X's4I's Rob, or X4I with Dave, pull off a cover of "Hunger Strike" at Soda about 8 months before the video was released, or is that just another one of those fuzzy memories again? (I still have no f'n idea what that song's supposed to mean, and I still love it.)
Damn good to see you again, man. Drop by my site and add whatever links you've got, tell stories, whatever you wanna do. The soap opera continues to churn ever onward.
(PS: *I* resent Matt for not doing more with GB; it was a very solid band with some very cool and accessible tunes. I mean, I'm over it, it was 15 f'n years ago, but we should have been playing out long before the end, IMO.)
In response to: Christian Coville on 01-27-09 for John Henry
Hey De-shlong (Animal)Nice story about our show in Chi-town... --- end of previous message ---
Best show: Big Blue Couch
This huge hairy guy with a diaper on, viking helmet
and bib throwing candy, toys and Oh, what's this?
It looks like Shrooms! (oh yeah, fun nite for those who were there)
Posted by: Christian Coville on 01-27-09 about John Henry
Hey De-shlong (Animal)Nice story about our show in Chi-town... But I was not in the Sky with Lucy, and I seen things differently. (lol)I had a broken toe and was taking codeine for the pain (along w/ getting there too early (drinking).I had to play sitting on a stool...remember that? As far as partaking, no one asked me.Course Four Peace did what ever they wanted, when they wanted to. (Spoiled/Egos) all of us...
As far as managing Four Peace,,,
Come on, who could possibly manage that F.U.S.S. (lol)
and I never resented Matt B. for not doing something more w/ Gypsy Blue...It was, what it was. But I enjoyed jammin with both of you.
Gonna post lots of stuff, just finishing the Graphic Design degree.Need to get a hold of Jager
he has lots of archive Relliks!
Posted by: Christian Coville (Four Peace) on 01-27-09 about all
Sorry for not dressing up to. (Even though we held the show at the Four Peace) Westnedge house. Oh yeah,
we were dressed like rockstars...
We were so vain. (lol)
Funny thing about loaning out my git-fiddle to
Urge Overkill, was that I lent him my back up (Washburn), cuz no one was touching the Les Pool.
$1999 (I don't think so)
Then low and behold (Pulp Fiction) soundtrack
Urge Overkill.
Dan your taking up too much space...
Sound familiar?
It's your buddy Villain!
I feel like I am at home again...
This site and others are great, because to lose
the "Magic-Mushroom" days would be a shame.
Enter>>>Digital Age!!!
Facebook is driving me crazy, other than it lead me
here.We have so much Rellik media to post, we should
get together Yo' and upload our Shtih!
I am just about done w/ the Graphic Design degree so I know we could blow this site up! (LOL0LOL)
Gimme a call (peter) and we'll get busy...
Oh yeah, Matt called you "peter"
I called you "scranial".
Just kiddin...
NOT (HUHUHUHUHU)
Peace an da shot of Jager to you all (although I don't partake... (Sakajaweeah)
Posted by: Worhead/Misnthropy on 01-26-09 about Flyers
On the same bill? Someone refresh my memory on how Matt B. went from one to the other?
Awesome collection here - I remember Coville having to lend Urge Overkill his guitar because theirs had all been stolen the night before in Windsor or Toronto or some damn thing. Attendance was not spectacular that I recall - this was a couple of years before UO hit with "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon."
And there's ol Sky Juice (true story: I booked them and Four Peace in to Peppers for some strange reason, and they showed up with *no drums*) on a bill with TI, and Selling Heaven/Twitch with their Tongue sticking out. It's so nice to know I didn't hallucinate all this stuff...ZnoWhite was the band of Messers Garnett, Warne, and Fox after their previous gig, I believe, but before that band that eventually became Remnant.
Flyer from the Desacrator show would be choice ;-) Would also be cool if anyone has tape/flyers from the big show at the State in August of 07, there were like 10 or 12 bands on the bill including Doug G's band that I can never remember the name of (even though I can remember like 4 others he was in), and I'm pretty sure that Desacrator was on that bill as well.
Rather than eat up all your bandwidth, I'm putting together my long-winded ramblings in a section of my site. I wasn't drum-less, I was just most active before and after 89-93 when things were really cooking. Minor correction on re-read: Karen moved to Chicago. The Actors are up at my site. I'm looking to move back to the 'zoo, hopefully by the end of summer. If anyone wants to write bios/articles for the Kalamazoo Music section of my site, get in touch. Get in touch anyway. I miss people. Other news-articles-plans-links: http://www.lowgenius.net/page/Kalamazoo-Music.aspx which I'm updating EVEN AS WE SPEAK.
Posted by: Culture of None (Adam C Paul) on 01-25-09 about Flyers
Oh WOW this is great! I remember those old Soda calenders, they were a great help since I was usually planning my Kzoo trips from either Detroit, MI or Greendale, WI.
Would've loved to see the Flots N Jets/Prong/TI show. So many other metal greats here, also: Znowhite, Faith or Fear, deadhorse...
and that Desacrator flyer alone made my week - just awesome.
I still have a TI martini shirt. it's too big so I wear it around the house. We used to wear them to high school and thought we were cool because it had booze on it. no wonder no friends.
I've got many. Feel the palm twitch, deaths head TI, a rollinghead with a rolling head on it, screwtape and overman of course, old butterfly Selling heaven, girthy black spring.
the prize, of course, is the Snorkel shirt with the man helping the little boys pants off.
does anyone else in the Temple crowd still have any kzoo band t-shirts? i ask because i'm wearing my Twitch shirt (a rather wacky product (most likely conceived by the Grass Records folk): heather grey shirt with bright red/blue/yellow print. Got it from Grass years ago via mailorder for $7 or so. I believe Brent Oberlin spied it on me at one show & quipped that no kzoo folk could fit into theirs anymore. I've also got a Black Umbrella shirt and the old metronome-eyeball thOught industry t.
Geoff, don't feel lazy, feel inspired by CB. Your audience awaits you.
It's nice that someone bought the RollingHead CDs in the aftermarket, but what fool abandoned them in the first place?? Surely someone who had already loaded them into their iPhone
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-21-09 about all
yesterday I saw both Rollinghead CDs at the Salvation Army here in Livonia, MI.
Today, I was surprised to find they were both gone. Good to see kzoo stuff is still selling like hotcakes.
Cheebus, does this guy ever quit? Makes me feel lazy. The birds thing is suh-weet. Would love to have heard Cuckoo Bird arranged live style at Harvey's, once upon a time. I wanna sing back ups and play guitar. I'm glad you make music Chris. If CH happens by this post I'd like to ask what software was used in the production of the music part.
So amazing to have seen Bryers walking down the street in Hollywood one day...Got to see them play at the Whiskey. Had no idea they were even out there. I just happen to decide to go see a gallery showing of photos taken by Dennis Hopper and saw Chris walking down the street. He said Hey, we have a gig at the Whiskey. Gwen Stefani and Gavin were both there and stood right behind us of course they were there to see some other band they played with but I think she liked 'em. Funny, that reminds me of a twitch gig at the Club Soda where D'Arcy came up and asked me "Which one is Chris Bryers?" I told her, the one with the sweet voice of course! Ok I think I really said, "that one" and pointed at him but you get my point.
Perhaps Joby or Jim Cherry could type one out.In response to: Culture Of None on 01-16-09 for all
uh...is there a tracklist (song titles is what i'm looking for) available for 'Birds'? Right now, that "Sun exploded in your heart, feel like a match-stick burning in the dark" song is killing me...need to know the title :P --- end of previous message ---
uh...is there a tracklist (song titles is what i'm looking for) available for 'Birds'? Right now, that "Sun exploded in your heart, feel like a match-stick burning in the dark" song is killing me...need to know the title :P
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-15-09 about Doxie
DOXIE was amazing - live, especially. Halsey knew how to wring out soaring and delicate tones, clear and articulate, whilst still strumming a git-fiddle.
They were the reason I'd drive out to K-zoo from Detroit, greater than anyone recognized...
Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-14-09 about all
Jeff, I just got hold of 'Birds' when it posted on the Temple; tho I'd already heard easily half the tracks via Bryers' myspace page.
What I realized today - driving in the Michigan snow & listening to 'Ku Ku Bird' - is how many VERY memorable melody lines and hooks Chris has been able to conjure: especially with the Sleet stuff, but even back to Owlsa, etc. Mega song-writing talents, I would argue.
By the way, I have an original FA-Q record album with a ton of press-kit / photos / reviews / zine stuff in the sleeve. Got it for 25 centimes at an LP shop years back.
In response to: Jeff on 01-14-09 for all
Culture of none: Did you just get 'birds', or have you had it a while? A nice article that I generally agree with.
Is Brent more elusive? Both he and Bryers are up two albums since 9/11 (cutting it close though)
We'll put Bremens on the short list, but The high council will have to weigh in on Mom Handy's inclusion. I think I heard that they played at RICs a few times.
Geoff Halsey will decide. --- end of previous message ---
Culture of none: Did you just get 'birds', or have you had it a while? A nice article that I generally agree with.
Is Brent more elusive? Both he and Bryers are up two albums since 9/11 (cutting it close though)
We'll put Bremens on the short list, but The high council will have to weigh in on Mom Handy's inclusion. I think I heard that they played at RICs a few times.
Here are a few bands that I had enjoyed that I did not see make your list..that Should be recognized. Some of the members are still playing and part of other bands mentioned..they not like going to see Screwtape on acid..but it was and is great music and fun times
Posted by: Gossip Queen (er, the master) on 01-14-09 about Cosmonaut
I've heard from a reliable source that there is a plan or intention to finish those recordings. Stay tuned!
In response to: cultureofnone on 01-13-09 for Cosmonaut
late in the life of the Cosmonaut website, there was a post that some post-Pipebomb Full of Nails demos/recordings were soon to be posted/shared...I think they were just instrumental tracks w/o Brent, tho. Anyone ever get a hold of these? They should be put here on the Temple :) --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-13-09 about Cosmonaut
late in the life of the Cosmonaut website, there was a post that some post-Pipebomb Full of Nails demos/recordings were soon to be posted/shared...I think they were just instrumental tracks w/o Brent, tho. Anyone ever get a hold of these? They should be put here on the Temple :)
So *that's* what happened to Spider. I remember her blowing me, Jason, and Mike away in..must have been summer of '87 when she showed up to audition for us and whipped out "Diary of a Madman." On keyboards. In time.
When I first found this place, or maybe when I first found TASMLab even, I promised a story of a gig in chicago and some enriched paper.
This is that story.
So Four Peace is doing their first gig in Chicago at a place called the "Dance Factory." Was an old utility or manufacturing floor or some crap where the main space was a dance club, but then they had this kind of side-room thing with a rollaway wooden door where they had live bands. The show had been co-booked by a guy named Ralph Wallace in Chicago who ran an outfit called ROMP, that later led to FP trading some gigs back and forth with Wickerman and Deep Blue Dream.
This was probably the strangest booking ever. The original bill was FP, something called Peacefrog, and a reggae band called "Dub Dis." We weren't sure if maybe Ralph hadn't bothered even listening to the tape we sent him, but it was a paid gig, and it was Chicago, so you know how that goes.
We all load up - the band, Opie (Dan J's drum fish), J. Peake (that huge dude that used to handle all Matt B's gear), me (I was playing some kind of manager/booking agent/general hanger-on for 4P at the time, as I was drumless - an unfortunately recurring theme for me), some females, and this cat who I will call B who used to take promo pix of a lot of the bands in the area (you guys know who I mean, I know you do. Copy shop), and we get in a truckin convoy and head for the Windy City.
We get there waaaay early with a UHaul full of gear, and Dave H. breaks out the grill he'd brought along and starts doing his thing (cooking steaks on the back of a UHaul, which a passing cop later made us VERY nervous about as he informed us that this was verboten) while Dan j steals a warning poster about rats that later became a permanent fixture on the sides of 4P's giant speakers. (Truly funny shit: I saw that *exact same poster* next to currently-engaged-in-a-hostile-takeover-of-illinois Rod Blajojevic on the AP news feed a couple of days ago). We do our thing, hang out, eat, smoke, blah de blah, we got nothing else to do but chill and wait for someone to unlock the bar so we can load in.
Someone, I don't even remember who, happened to be in possession of a quantity of chemically-enriched paper that night, and DaveH decided that this was going to be his first gig under the active influence of that particular substance. So we're already looking forward to an interesting evening - Dave wasn't exactly the most subtle of people to begin with. Before the paper even got involved, it got interesting as night fell and the place opened...
First, this "Peacefrog" outfit. We figured they were probably a Doors-y psychedelic band (amazing deductive skills, we musicians!) They were supposed to be second on the bill with 4P opening and the reggae guys headlining, shows up and it's ONE GUY with a little 10-inch gorilla amp who explained that a) he'd fired his band that day, b) he'd picked up some replacements by soliciting random strangers on the street while carrying said gorilla amp to the gig, and c) he was now billing himself as "The Beatles."
No shit.
Okay, so now 4P is second on the bill, since nobody is interested in opening for a scruffy high school sophomore with a gorilla amp and the local skid row bum. Yes, he actually went on! With some random homeless guy screaming over the barely-audible screeching and noise of his teeny little amp, which wouldn't have mattered if it was 100 feet tall because the dude basically just stood there for about 40 minutes beating the shit out of his guitar without even pretending to try to actually involve things like tuning, melody, rhythm, tone, or really anything but white noise, atonality, and a lot of feedback.
I believe the homeless dude may have been screaming random Kierkegaard or Schopenhauer quotes over all of this.
In the original languages.
This was not shaping up to be the greatest of all possible touring experiences.
As soon as "The Beatles" hit the stage, Dave, B, and I headed out to my little blue 89 LeMans and added the flavor of enriched paper - VERY WELL enriched paper, I might add - to our tongues for dissolution. The rest of the band...had no idea. At all. None. And outside of a bit of herbality and some warmup brew (hence the nervousness of being confronted by Chicago's Finest in regards to Dave's impromptu display of culinary art), they were all stone sober.
So Dave has intentionally timed this such that the enrichment will make itself known to his cerebellum right around the time "The Beatles" are packing their crap and getting the hell out of the way (one nice thing: the changeover from 'them' to us was about 3 minutes). About an hour after "The Beatles" have stormed the stage, Four Peace takes over and puts on a very good, solid show of musicality and mashed-potato-and-peanut-butter grungy thickness (I stole that mashed potato line from a reviewer in the GR zine, Music Revue?, in their review of 4P's demo).
Dave...is having a transcendent experience, and by this point so are B and I. I've always wondered how B's photos differed from what he THOUGHT he was seeing, but I digress. Dave's doing his thing, the band's doing theirs. By the time the sets done, the enriched among us are definitely seeing happy trails.
Chicago being what it is, the bar didn't open til about 11pm, and 4p didn't go on until around 12:30am. They managed to pull a pretty nice chunk of the dance club in over their set - had maybe 350 or 400 folks in a space about half the size of soda by the time they were done, lots of applause and can-i-have-your-autograph and sold a few tapes and fiddled with a bit of the local fauna that tended toward femaleness. They went long, for a 2nd act, maybe 105 minutes or so.
So 105 minutes later we loaded out of that place in all of about three minutes (major fast for the huge amount of gear 4P was carrying at the time).
Gig's over, everyone wants to go get fooked one way or the other, so we start to do that. Most every stays behind in Chicago to hang with RompRalph, the dude who had set this abomination of a gig up.
B has to get back home, and Dave and I were both deep in relationships at the time, so we decide to head back to the 'zoo. Yes, I was driving. No, it wasn't real smart, since all three of us were very much on a long trip at this point, and I don't mean the ride to Chicago. Not my finest moment, but what the hell - everyone knows you're invincible when you're 21.
We pile in my little POS LeMans and manage to find the Skyway and head back in the general direction of Mittenland. There's a little of this sort of liquid fermented beverage and a little of that sort of mood elevating herbality and there might have been something refined to keep the sleep away involved as well, I don't even remember for sure anymore.
So we're cruising along and BSing back and forth and having a nice permagrin vacation and listening to the board tape at full volume and generally doing what hippie musician types do at 3:30 AM after a gig in the big city. Nothing else on the road. We're on 94, tooling along about 70 or so and I'm not even watching the road as I'm yapping back and forth with Dave in the passenger seat and B in the back seat (hey, man, eye contact is just common courtesy when you're talking to someone, ya know?), havin a good ol' time.
I'm lookin at Dave, saying something of little to no importance (but it seemed remarkably profound at the time), and suddenly I see his face go white as a sheet. Now, those of you who remember Dave might guess, correctly, that this was quite the feat, given that what little of his face wasn't covered with that thick beard was of a quite ruddy complexion.
His eyes get even bigger than they already were.
His mouth drops open so far I thought he was gonna let loose with one of those shrieks only dogs can hear, the ones that sounded like Donald Sutherland in the last frame of "The Body Snatchers" that he used to drop in to their cover of "Mountain Song" and a few other tuns.
His jaw starts working up and down, he's stammering.
"Ab..ab...abb...um...John. John. JOHN!!"
He points out the windshield, at which point I figure what the hell, I'm driving so I may as well look, right? We're on a huuuuge bridge, I think it goes over the Chicago River, on the east side of town heading in to Gary, I'm sure you know the one I mean. It's pitch black outside. There's nothing else on the road but us, anywhere. No streetlights, no signs, no nothing, just the lines on the road, the pavement, the bridge rails, and us. 70 miles an hour and smooth sailing all the way ba...
Wait a minute. Why do the lines in the road, the bridge rails, and the PAVEMENT STOP RIGHT IN FRONT OF US?
Ooooh shit.
I slam on the brakes. We all three shriek like four year old girls with a new puppy. I'm trying to figure out how the hell I missed all the signs that SURELY must have warned us that this bridge was under repair and COMPLETELY GONE HALFWAY ACROSS THE DAMN THING.
I close my eyes and feel the car fall out from underneath me as we all plummet over the edge and begin falling to our certain death hundreds of feet below in the shipyards of East Chicago....
...and then open them and realize that the bridge had been newly-paved, starting at just the right point mid-bridge, and no lines had been painted on it and the reflectors and other traffic accoutrements had not yet been re-installed. This combination, in addition to the lack of street lights and the merrily hallucniatory chemicals making their way through our synapses, conspired to give the impression - to all three of us - that the road simply ended about 50 feet from the point where I'd turned to look at it.
After we all changed our pants and wiped ourselves, we had a good laugh and drove back the rest of the way home, and that was the last time I drove under the influence of much of anything. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time any of the three of us has discussed this event publicly.
And that's my little story. Happy new year, Zoolanders!
If anyone's interested in contributing stories, pics, or URLs to past-present-future zooband sites pages info, please drop by http://www.lowgenius.net/page/Kalamazoo-Music-The-Thing-That-Almost-Was.aspx and go from there.
Damn, and I was so looking forward to those children, too. They make excellent burritos.
In response to: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 for Quixote
no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese.
-DuG [the freshmaker] --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: You all are the bomb on 01-11-09 about Grant and Roche
These are the jams. I haven't been excited about a song in a long time...St. Patrick is my new favorite cut. I'm sure all this nostalgia could be clouding my perception...but I doubt it. Very inspiring. xo
what's more funny than purple dave in a teddy? overwomen playing at the 4 peace house! who has pictures from this hilarious show with overman performing in dresses?
But if you MAKE it to the post office, just think of how your chances increase of producing said golden egg from your sphincter?
"Parasites" probably has my favorite lyrics of anything Grant has written. I would recommend transcribing them from the recording. They are easy to make out.
Yes and "Colin" I'm probly just gonna drive the calenders to your house as me going to the post office is about as likely as me shitting out a golden egg...
i believe i have a track by TONGUE on cd-r, i do believe it came from a way early-era kzoo/battlecreek/gr comp of bands, was released in a slimcase and the art insert was black with each band's logo and song title in white text. i've long since parted w/ that historic item, but burnt the cooler songs on my own disc.
Posted by: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 about Quixote
no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese.
-DuG [the freshmaker]
Posted by: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 about Quixote
no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese.
-DuG [the freshmaker]
Posted by: Mike Rosenbaum on 12-18-08 about Catharsis
I was fortunate to be involved with the band from the beginning. I recorded their first two demo songs "Playing In Traffic" and "Children at Play" in the basement of one of the dorms in Valley 3 on my 4 track. Through the early years I was a roadie and let Nick use my guitars and amp. I still have the 12 string Ovation acoustic in the picture above.
I remember the day when I heard that Bill lost his arm. It was devastating. It was also one of the most amazing things to see him at their first practice after the accident. After only a month he adapted his playing style so he could play most of the songs. It was like he never had an accident.
They were way ahead of their time. They were very talented musicians and a great bunch of guys.
saw quixote a bunch of times in the late 90s. once with frodus in 97 or therabouts........once with tristeza and american heritage at soda, multiple michiganfests and a few other times i barely remember.
anyways, great great stuff, just too bad more people dident get clued in............
Posted by: Jason-kzoo on 12-06-08 about Rollinghead
Are there any copies of live Rollinghead covers such as; "Do it in the Road" and "Heros"? That would make this collection complete. Man, I miss the good old days.
Posted by: Jason-kzoo on 12-06-08 about Rollinghead
Are there any copies of live Rollinghead covers such as; "Do it in the Road" and "Heros"? That would make this collection complete. Man, I miss the good old days.
I LOVE GHG Dutch Mafia... F"N brilliant!!! any other GHG material out there? I'll be more than happy to transfer/digitize anything at my studio. Same w/ Thought Industry material...
Thanks for leonstemple, what a great source for us K-zoo music diehards.
I can be reached by > email slapekas at yahoo dOt com if you want transfer digitize any of this stuff! Thnx.
Could this be the same Brian Jackson that worked at soda so many long years ago? Or have I been hitting the bong too hard?
In response to: brian jackson on 11-25-08 for all
theres little info here about my old roomates band Ordination of Aaron, they were soundshapers for the EMO sound back in the early 90's, when it was good not this crap now... worthy of being mentioned as they played all over our great city as well as releasing 7"s, comp songs and a full length vinyl LP which were hard marks to reach unless you did them yourselves and stacked them in your closet. anyway, them and Constatine Sankathi were doing some pretty cool sincere rockin back then and if your from k-zoo you all should know.
thanks for the site! brian (aka: action) jackson --- end of previous message ---
theres little info here about my old roomates band Ordination of Aaron, they were soundshapers for the EMO sound back in the early 90's, when it was good not this crap now... worthy of being mentioned as they played all over our great city as well as releasing 7"s, comp songs and a full length vinyl LP which were hard marks to reach unless you did them yourselves and stacked them in your closet. anyway, them and Constatine Sankathi were doing some pretty cool sincere rockin back then and if your from k-zoo you all should know.
thanks for the site! brian (aka: action) jackson
Posted by: a.k.a. "GARP-O" on 11-25-08 about Fletcher
...But dearest Trish, nothing could beat the government-issued peanut butter, that I tried to get those fine young Fletcher lads hooked onto, at the 412 estate.
In response to: Tricia Chappell on 05-09-08 for Fletcher
I used to make snacks for the Fletcher boys when they would practice in the Douglas St. house basement. I would make like ramen noodles on toast, potatoes w/ carl budding corn beef sandwich slices, sandwich cookies dipped in jello, that sort of fare. It really fueled the boys on & I feel somewhat responsible for their success. --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: a.k.a. "GARP-O" on 11-25-08 about Fletcher
Greetings Paul B. - Yeah, it was great living in the 412 Douglas house, listening to you guys practicing in the basement, and studying for my psychology exams...
In response to: Paul B on 03-11-08 for Fletcher
One time after we played @ Harvey’s with this NYC band called Saturn 9 ended up staying at my place. Paul W asked me if I could drive him to a friends house because he had to drop off some money. Me and Saturn 9 sat in the Fletcher van foran hour (3:30 am-ish) waiting for Paul to come back so we could all go to sleep. I was giddy from just playing a tremendous rock show and kept our visiting friends distracted with early AM wit and charm. Paul came back to van in a daze. I was so fucking green. --- end of previous message ---
ms. coffinger used to have a crush on me before she got boobs [like 8th grade], so i had to pass. who knew she'd turn into a hottie? but then she got v.d. from mr pillars. so ewww...
Posted by: anthony gentile on 11-16-08 about Quixote
hey gang,
paul didn't pass away until 2005. i don't know where you all are getting your info, but if you don't know when somebody died, you might not want to be putting the info out there.
don't mean to be harsh, but what the fuck? we're not talking about when somebody put a record out or when they got a new nirvana t-shirt.
i am still in contact with his mother who is doing well.
some of you might be interested to KNOW (not guess) that Paul was doing VERYwell before he died. in fact, he was actually volunteering at a rehab facility... and they dedicated a LIBRARY to him... the Paul J Wartella Library. believe it or not... that is TRUTH.
i was there the day it was dedicated to him. it was a BEAUTIFUL day.
we all have stories of partying with Paul or watching him throw up... but i think you all would be surprised (as i was) to see the MANY MANY people whom he touched in a truly special and loving way. i was blown away as nearly 100 people stood up to talk about how much he had helped them with their own recovery.
again, i don't mean to be an asshole (i can't help it)... but it was 2005.
I actually enjoy digitizing things. I have already digitized a bunch of King Tammy things including the aforementioned Halloween show (which I recorded and sang "When Doves Cry"). I may even have Zelda. I definitely have Bad Caramel from their pre-hard rock days.
I'm not sure if the guys want this stuff available or not, so I'll get back to you about uploading it.
Long live King Tammy! Even though technically they don't actually exist anymore. :(
Another great side project you should all track down is Basement Parade which features both Darrin Doyle and Steve Davison.
The yer-a-dope shorts are on youtube (including a King Tammy clip of Shitfingerstink) courtesy of Chris Simons. Darrin Doyle's novel is due in bookstores next year.
Posted by: Master on 11-13-08 about Grant and Roche
I didn't think they were that hard to discern from listening to the track, and besides "cars are just bars when you're behind the wheel", I suspect the rest are gibberish written quickly.
Still, if anyone wants to transpose I will post.
In response to: ben wessell on 11-13-08 for Grant and Roche
still looking for some lyrics to stars if anybody has them --- end of previous message ---
Chattanooga huh? Thats cool. I've been there several times playing or seeing shows.
I'm currently in the land of sun and geriatrics - florida.
Moved from Mich to Ill to Az to Germany to florida. Got married and now have a baby daughter.
I however still think that Michigan is the epicenter of the universe but my wife likes warm climates better so i'll have be down here until it sinks into the Atlantic and Michigan becomes the new south.
good to see that you still keeping on. The Florida music environment is dreadful.
ciao
t.u.
PS - Remember the Coffinger's down the street from you in kazoo? Christine was super hot.
In response to: DuG the freshmaker on 09-29-08 for Quixote
Tony, i'm living in Chattanooga, Michigan is too cold for me. Life is great down here, i feel it's necessary to let everyone know that they need to escape that awful state before they're buried in it. ~peace.
In response to: Tony U. on 09-26-08 for Quixote
Hey Doug!
Thanks a bunch. It's been a really long time. Are you still in Michigan?
In response to: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 for Quixote
Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Yeah colin I've been done scanning them forever please email me your address again (I lost it) oceansofregret(at)yahoo.com I'll ship them back promptly
In response to: Colin H on 11-06-08 for all
Any word from Joby on those soda calenders I sent him? --- end of previous message ---
It would be a fine addition. Who wants to digitize it for us?
I found moving stuff from tape to digital is a pain. In fact, just PLAYING an old tape can be challenging. I have to try to hitchhike with somebody whose got a 1999 Malibu and am like "do you have a tape deck in there?"
Posted by: Adam (cultureofnone.blogspot.com) on 10-25-08 about all
Listening to the Dead River Drag CD right now, which I do only a couple times a year to preserve its power and importance. Really fantastic middle Michigan sounds. Also eyebrows are raised in response to the 7 Seconds flyer here; one top of all of it, MIND OVER 4?!! I've been a huge fan of that band since '88 or so, have their entire discography, etc. Reminds me also that I need to share my FAQ press kit stuff (photos, reviews, bio) soon...either here or thru www.cultureofnone.blogspot.com,
where I recently nodded to the greatness of Twitch after much Thought Industry adoration.
So, was it Kevin or Brent who played bass in Dead River Drag? or both?
Posted by: Audio Geek From MT on 10-24-08 about Rollinghead
Holy Crapola,
To the genuine angles that run this site...thanks. I grew up listening to Daddyhorse every damn day while I drove my busted ass Subaru to both high school and WMU in the early 90s. I've searched high and low for a copy of this album (in CO and MT to ill effect) and here it finally is, in all its raging glory. Aw man, I remember chugging Bell's beer with blue label Smirnoff chasers down near Bronson Park before hearing these guys at Barking Tuna. Shit...what a fugging place that Kalamazoo. What a place. Thank baby Jeebus for Rollinghead. Thank baby Jeebus for Daddyhorse! Peace and chicken grease.
P.S. Also miss the skate shop when it was in the alley. P.P.S. Peace out to Flipside (RIP, I think) and Music Express (before the got into homebrewing).
I stumbled across this site a couple of weeks ago....wow! Kinda makes my heart ache a little..just the reminder of the first time I heard that Richenbacher 12 string sound when Andy and Dave played what would become " Crossing Novembers Winds"...in Tommy Fullers basement where we would practice...Does anyone have any recordings of the Confirmation? We did one session at ALBO in G.R. but I only have a compilation recording...does anyone know where Andy Bennet is? How can I contact Dave Grant.
Thanks for any help.
Tom Griffioen
In response to: Rod MacQuarrie on 05-12-08 for Rollinghead
Man, this takes me way back...
I met Dean Van Dyke at Smith Burnham Hall on the WMU campus in 1986. He had just dyed his hair black and it hung down in front nearly down to his chin. What a great guy. Dean was a huge Church fan and he introduced me to their back catalog. He also taught me many of the chords to Church songs and I've been a Church fan ever since. Over the years we stayed in touch and actually lived right behind him. Dave was dating some girl and I was dating her sister. I'd go to parties at his place from time to time and watched as Dave and Dean slowly morphed into something a bit more aggressive. They were really influenced by the Led Zeppelin direction the Cult were heading in. I recall Dean mentioning he was in a band called the Jet Boys before Murder of Crows back in Muskegon, but Dave Grant wasn't in that band. I still have a Murder of Crows sticker (unused).
At one point I sang a cover version of Unguarded Moment during one of the parties Dean and Dave put on. I think the band was Memories of Tomorrow. What a great time that was!
As for Dave Grant, I first met him at a Confirmation concert. What an awesome band! I used to have a cassette of their one and only album but it's long gone now. Dave was really influenced by Cactus World News and the Waterboys as I recall, and in the late 80's he was digging Runrig's first album.
After the Confirmation broke up, I bought Dave Grant's Rickenbacker 12-string and Jazz Chorus amp that he used in the Confirmation. Ended up selling them around 1991. Later on I remember Dave asking if I still had it. Around that time he was getting a divorce and had started Rolling Head.
Around Rolling Head broke up I ran into Dave Van Dyke. Apparently he was taking courses to become a Dental Hygienist or something. I haven't seen or heard from any of them since. Anyone have contact info? --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: tom from the early days (....they thought we were the Eagles - we were that good) on 10-10-08 about Grant and Roche
hmmmm....just membering Dave and Andy and I screwin around...now he's ( Dave ) doing some serious shit. Me - I'm just worrying about paying for Drew's college...Take care.
Tom
Posted by: Junit1 on 09-30-08 about So This is Outerspace
Arghh. I screwed up and missed a track when I broke up the original recording into individual mp3s...I will try to fix this sometime this week. Sorry about that.
In response to: J-Unit 1 on 09-27-08 for So This is Outerspace
Here is a link to a zip of So This Is Outerspace's demo (called, I believe "A Thousand Zippers" ?). Included in the zip:
Individual Mp3s of the tracks (song names tagged when known)
An uncut transfer of the demo tape...that apparently goes off into non STIOS stuff that just happened to be on the tape Beth provided me with.
Enjoy!
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ufgfcmyxz4o --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: DuG the freshmaker on 09-29-08 about Quixote
Tony, i'm living in Chattanooga, Michigan is too cold for me. Life is great down here, i feel it's necessary to let everyone know that they need to escape that awful state before they're buried in it. ~peace.
In response to: Tony U. on 09-26-08 for Quixote
Hey Doug!
Thanks a bunch. It's been a really long time. Are you still in Michigan?
In response to: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 for Quixote
Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: J-Unit 1 on 09-27-08 about So This is Outerspace
Here is a link to a zip of So This Is Outerspace's demo (called, I believe "A Thousand Zippers" ?). Included in the zip:
Individual Mp3s of the tracks (song names tagged when known)
An uncut transfer of the demo tape...that apparently goes off into non STIOS stuff that just happened to be on the tape Beth provided me with.
just read the track listing on the new metallica album, and wouldn't ya know it, there actually is a song called the unforgiven part 3, i think they might owe you some of that fat ass royalty money, hmmmm....
Posted by: Mike Pawlowski on 09-18-08 about Rollinghead
Ah man still love to type "Rollinghead" in search engines. To see this little bit is great. Grew up in Kzoo and spent my entire teens stuck in the State seeing so many great acts. Worked at Bimbo's and spent almost an underaged lifetime at the Soda drinking Bell's Amber watching shows like Rollinghead, DRD, Killswitch (is Clements still alive?), Twitch, Mustard Plug, Thought Industry, even The Verve Pipe (even way back when they were Johnny with an Eye). Well anyways good to see people are still interested. I have every Rollinghead album here in Austin, TX with me. I should figure out how to upload all of them for others. Went to see Frank Black do a small show here in the ATX with a Rollinghead Tee on, he actually mentioned to me that they were from Kzoo.
Has anyone ever read any lyrics by the Cars? I can't beleive they used to let 12 year olds lipsynch to Cars records with that trite shit.In response to: on 09-18-08 for all
I believe that was Greg Hawkes. However, I will confess to taking inspiration for my 1981 Prom haircut from Mr. Hawkes...
In response to: jz on 09-17-08 for all
hey, Greg Fowkes, did'nt you play keyboards for the cars? Or was that Fawkes? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Still waiting for the EVENTUAL re-opening of kraftbrau. It will be nice to have a venue that is based on live music, instead of having it as an afterthought. It should be bigger and better than the old 'brau, with a much smoother parking lot! Also, there are high hopes for a liquor license as well. That means more chicks will come to the shows if they have something to drink besides (good) beer and soda. No more pounding bottles of boons farm and blue maui in the parking lot! (yeah, right!) Hopefully the stage will be a foot or two higher than the old one, so the short people can see without jumping up and down all night. After being closed for nearly a year, I think folks are ready for a club with a real rock n roll stage. Not just a corner of the room with a rented peavey P.A............
Long time no post. Yeah, Turkish and Iranian hackers picked MY site, of all places, to plow their field. My hosts' fault - they left a door open. Rather silly, considering my politics lean quite far left and these guys were apparently pitching a fit about the same things *I* have been pitching a fit about...go figure.
If anyone's innersted I've got a big ol' redesign going on right now that includes movement to a much more social and new-webby engine. I still hope to make it back to the crumbling streets and working-class cynicism of the 'zoo one day soon. NC sucks. Never, ever consider moving here.
And I haven't forgotten I owe y'all a paper story...
Posted by: Ron Sinatra on 09-15-08 about everything
Just wanted to chime in and suggest everyone check out UFODICTATOR.COM
I think it's been mentioned here before, but I think it deserves more recognition, maybe even a sub-section all it's own.
It's a great Kalamazoo based label that puts out records by amazing (mostly Kalamazoo area) rock/punk rock/weirdo bands.
The label's head honcho hosts WIDR's "Down In Flames" of Friday nights, and often gives many of us AARP rockers airplay and "props."
A lot of these musicians' faces would be familiar to you, as they were the ones standing outside the Munchie Mart asking you to buy booze for them back when you thought that it was YOUR band that was gonna make this town the next (Athens/Seattle/Austin/Etc.) These were the cats that paid $3.00 at the door, got big X's markered onto their hands, then saw us rocking out and thought to themselves: "Hell, if THOSE ugly no-talent fuggers can do it…so can we!"
By the way, that's exactly what I said to myself when my kindergarten class went on a field trip, and I saw Violent Apathy playing a reunion show at the Deer Forest Amphitheater.
Anyway, not just the faces would be familiar, but you'd know some of the musicians as well. Joel Wick, for example, sings for Mesa, and one (or more, maybe?) member of The Spits is on the Black Orphan single. (The Mesa single, by the way, is maybe my fave of all the UFO records. It rocks like you want it to rock. Like BOC, or KISS ALIVE II) A lot of the other players are your old roommate's little brothers or little sisters. I even know of one UFO recording artist who's FATHER played in a band that's listed in the "Barking Tunas" section of this site!
(Some of your own offspring might be in that band too, for all you remember about that night at "the couch house")
Another UFO band, The Menthols, recently played at the SXSW festival, and has been creating a buzz and raising hell on the east coast for the past few weeks.
This weekend, The UFO Dicks are hosting UFO DICTATOR 4, an annual bash celebrating, well, themselves I guess. It's a 2 day event, with all the UFO bands playing Friday night. On Saturday, local legends SNORKEL play their first show in over a decade, and 70's punk rock icons The Penetrators (Look 'em up) are gonna blow the roof off the place (and then they're gonna get your old girlfriends pregnant!)
So check 'em out. Listen to Down In Flames on your innernets machines, and for the love of god, don't add that Menthols single to your list of "I wish I'd picked up that original/locally produced (Latin Dogs, Violent Apathy, Eminem, Kid Rock, Etc.) record before it got so expensive."
Buy that fucker now while it's still just $4.00! Seriously!
And now, back to Bruce Springsteen's "Glory Days," already in progress...
Road-I's brother Dan-O took over Bass slinging duties, as well as recording and engineering of the Love Offering CD, Face Down.
Seconding Rob's sentiments, Bad Ronald was the most amazing drummer I've ever had the opportunity to play with. Road-I and I tended to write in some awkward time signatures, and Ron never missed a beat.
thanks Rich. Maybe i'll get around to putting together Checker Records info for here and i'll send in the uno comp, inourselves/jihad and the never released Deconstruction LP.
In response to: rich on 08-27-08 for Fletcher
That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song.
In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher
i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days.
That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song.
In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher
i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days.
In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for Fletcher
Why wasn't the song you wrote about Bill Sprague and Rob Hicks on here?
Best song you guys had, methinks.
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i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days.
In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for Fletcher
Why wasn't the song you wrote about Bill Sprague and Rob Hicks on here?
LOCKHEED ELECTRA had Ron (FAQ) Ryan & Chuck (Vine) and Alan (deconstruction) and only put out 2 songs on a failed LP comp of K-zoo bands that myself and Todd Carter put out in 95-ish. i still have around 50-100 of these things @ my mums house...anyone here good @ ebay?
In response to: Master on 08-26-08 for FAQ
Perhaps it was just a RUMOR that FAQ drummer Ron Muniz was playing with the Vine guys in a band called JACK RED CLOUD. Perhaps this band never materialized, and if so, would it count if they just practiced and had a band name? In response to: on 08-26-08 for FAQ
You are correct Sir. No one from FAQ was in Vine....
In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for FAQ
I don't recall anyone from FAQ in Vine? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Perhaps it was just a RUMOR that FAQ drummer Ron Muniz was playing with the Vine guys in a band called JACK RED CLOUD. Perhaps this band never materialized, and if so, would it count if they just practiced and had a band name? In response to: on 08-26-08 for FAQ
You are correct Sir. No one from FAQ was in Vine....
In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for FAQ
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Posted by: Jef Till for Dustin on 08-26-08 about Thought Industry
Please send us stuff, you must have it.
Not that it is of any quality, but you can hear my Dustin tribute/homage on the Hudson Debacle's "Hudson Debacle Part I: Drinking with my friends". Moments after I bought my drumset I went out and bought a big, obnoxious, Mods-era ice bell and tried to hit it on the 4 and a half whenever I could.
Related but off topic, Joby said that "drinking with my friends" was a decent song to listen to at 4 am when you are drinking with your friends.
Posted by: carl on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry
Oh the super hotness of duct tape nipples.
One other thing about the old TI shows was their incorporation of multimedia into their sets prior to anyone else using it(that I can remember.) Of course Tool later stole the idea, and to this day uses the same footage they were using in the mid 90's.
Nothing like seeing a dozen 19 inch tv's piled on top of one another playing some sort of psychotic montage of visuals.
In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Dustin Donaldson on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry
eat shit, poser! pee pee tastes like SUCCESS! bwah ha ha (purpl dave squeal) you have an amazing memory, jeff! i support this site with my vine st heart- dustin
In response to: Jeff T on 08-22-08 for Thought Industry
Can you ask him what pee-pee tastes like?
In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details:
http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111
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Posted by: Jared... on 08-23-08 about Grant and Roche
I am left out in the cold...wrapped in a soggy puke soaked piece of 4x4 1/8" foam padding to cover my Hypothermic state. I remember playing drums on "STARS"...but I could just be trying to take credit for getting drunk and being in the way? I am currently in Phoenix, AZ listening to Mike Yount record. I found this site...and it is great for the stumble down memory lane. Thanks.
Jared - "I never lost a friend I couldn't stand to lose" Bryant
Posted by: Trey on 08-21-08 about Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details:
http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111
P.S. - The only reason it's just Dustin right now is because he's the only one we can reach. Christopher is unreachable right now... Brent & Paul; where are you? ;)
Posted by: BlackRabbit on 08-18-08 about Killswitch
Jimbo Jones from Killswitch/Burning Tent Revival is missing. Last seen in Homer, MI wearing a hood and speaking in tongues.
I you see him, he responds to the name Groovy-Bo, and can be captured using a mix of Milwaukee's Best and Cascarelli's Pizza.
He loves being tickled on the neck, but is prone to biting.
Mike is the best guitar player in the world. Dave is a timeless wonder. I'm sure we've already said this but it bears repeating given the new evidence.
man, what can i say about this album? this is like one of the best rock albums released in the last couple of years, no doubt about it.
i would like to avoid the usual jibberish about why this album is so great because of this and that reason. i just wanna show the band my full appreciation, respect and, most important, my enthusiasm for this piece of gold they created.
if i had the money, i really would like to start a label and release this one on vinyl, even though it would be for sure that noone would buy it anyway. at least i could add this one to my collection ;-).
I also enjoyed the Crows. I wish I still had a copy of their tape. I loved Steven's voice and Dean's guitar work. Orange on Grey stands out in my memory as a great song. Think, Echo and the Bunnymen meets The Church.
How's it goin' Rod. Good to read your comments.
In response to: Rod MacQuarrie on 08-15-08 for Rollinghead
Going through boxes of junk last weekend and came across an unused Murder of Crows sticker that Dean Van Dyke gave me back in 1987. He also gave me a large crow backdrop at one point, but that disappeared a long time ago... --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Rod MacQuarrie on 08-15-08 about Rollinghead
Going through boxes of junk last weekend and came across an unused Murder of Crows sticker that Dean Van Dyke gave me back in 1987. He also gave me a large crow backdrop at one point, but that disappeared a long time ago...
Posted by: Jeff Till on 08-10-08 about Rollinghead
Hi Melissa, welcome to the scene (a little late...) Let Todd know that I keep a clean house these days (albeit through some detail-oriented Brazilians). You wouldn't beleive what Joel and Steve are up to these days
Posted by: Melissa Hohauser-Thatcher on 08-10-08 about Rollinghead
crazy - never really knew rollinghead but i worked with dave van dyke at "sunshine sub" right after the jim jones days (he and dean were both in) and when he and some other guys (maybe dean) were doing "love pump" - a short lived (i think) side project for some guys. worked with dave for over a year - he lived with "freddy" and a group of people on the street just around the corner from the sub shop. also remember eric (from the other post) from the god bullies (although i don't think his name appears in the "former members" section on the god bullies myspace page) - lived with him and a couple of other people from kalamazoo in chicago.
My fond memories of Paul W. outside of Soda talking to him, when out of the blue he just vomited profusely all over the sidewalk, then seemed to think nothing happened. good times... good times.
everything Kiry says is true, except the bit about SubPop. He got that one backwards - THEY had the balls to turn US down for a seven inch. Pussies.
But here: the reunion is on, nailed down, no more rescheduling:
September 20th, Louie's Pub (on North).
UFO Dictator anniversary show
Snorkel Reunion, all four original members. Come see how gracefully we've aged. If the weather holds it'll be outside. If the weather sucks it'll be indoors, and there'll be room for like twelve people. Ergo: if it rains, come early.
Remember that tripped out movie you saw when you were a teenager, the one with all the drug references, jump cuts, and weird camera angles? It was so fucking awesome. Then you saw it again as an adult, and, ah man, you sort of wished you hadn't. Not that it was terrible, it's just that that shit was so much cooler before you knew anything about anything.
This show will probably be a little bit like that.
Hail Satan,
Snorkel
In response to: KIRY on 03-26-08 for Snokel
ahhh....yes....snorkel....i lived with the boys on minor street in the bands infancy.....sam b heard that i was starting resin mattress and was amazingly jealous....he picked my brain for hours about starting a rock band....it just came naturally for resin mattress...so they started snorkel....god were they awful...they practiced every fucking friday...i'd come home from class and be itching to get some serious studying done....but no...snorkel was in the basement hacking away at their "songs"....i would go downstairs and give them pointers on how to structure a song....told them they should really concentrate on perversion as a subject matter....duct tape the drum set back together and fend off robin at the door for them....blaine shaved his crotch at one of the practices....that was pretty cool....apparently they got good at some point...cause they had the balls to turn down sub pop for a 7"... --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Chris F on 07-22-08 about How Jeff remembers it
Thanks for the article Jeff. I was a teenager during the aforementioned time and playing guitar, learning how to write music, etc. Almost every band mentioned here, especially Thought Industry, Twitch, Rollinghead, and Screwtape, were huge influences on me, both musically and I suppose with regard to shorts and boots. I'm not totally sure, but maybe also with my long hair/shaved head combo. Both were a big hit with the ladies as I'm sure you can imagine. I'm glad I had these bands to look up to during my formative years. I took it as a great compliment when it got around to me that Herb liked our band because we sounded like good ol' Kalamazoo rock. I remember buying a bunch of TI merch at a Kalapalooza, and Dustin seeing me and my buddy holding all of our Kalamazoo band paraphernalia, and sneering disdainfully, "you guys really get off on this shit, don't ya?" Great times. I still listen to a lot of these bands, and I'm grateful that there are other people who remember them as fondly as I do.
that line is dandy, and I can make it out just fine. That and Colin/Geoff singing "pass out on the steering wheel" in Doxie reminds me of Kzoo. Someone should post a top 10 of DUI's
nice work Jeff. Love will cloud is super good. If I were a rich man, I would cover my house with your artwork. Do you paint ceilings? I know a few chapels that could use your touch.
Posted by: the occasional master on 07-15-08 about all
Locomotive God.
Slow down,, pay attention to me. We're all lost, but loss is not extraordinary. I can not support my lies, all my truths are paralyzed and I don't care. In between these sheets we write and think of ways we could destroy ourselves. I hate your father figure he raped me like a locomotive god! All your children our running for the back door. the strength and the sting of the wound is shining down. test your faith and shimmer like a godsend laughing every time that I repeat myself. I know how you hated it when I sold out. but this is my revenge for giving. Let's go kill the social blister. He's the one that spoiled my sister. It's not her fault at all. You're the reson I won't sleep at night my eyelids stapled open now I hate your father figure he raped me like a locomotive god.
Still some of my all time favs. I have 13 tracks on my unreleased so it might be off:
1. Captain Action
2. Johnny Needs Hugs
3. Tight White T-Shirt
4. Supra
5. Shoes
6. Gus
7. Eldorado
8. 4-Banger
9. Haiku
10. Old Capo
11. 7/4
12. Loden Blues
13. Biting Problem
14. ?
Allyson Martin may have these handy. I'll post them if somebody sends them in.
I really want to finally see the VIDEO to Locomotive God that was funded by label. That would certainly be post-worthy.
In response to: eric on 07-12-08 for twitch
would it be possible to reprint the lyrics to "Locomotive God"? by Twitch. I can't under stand half of them they are mixed so low but I love the tune --- end of previous message ---
Lemme in Masha music exists. i found the tape in my old bedroom closet. i gave to Tony Party to digitalize. Classic T. Miranda. that cat was handsome AND talented.
Posted by: Jeff on 07-07-08 about Thought Industry
My favorite TI tour was 'mods' when Brent played the bass slung super low and he made crazy-face while he tappity-tapped. Between his super-low bass and Dustin's super high cymbals, it seemed as if they were trying to make things a little extra challenging to pull off. I believe Chris was still dragging around the old trashcan to beat on too (that sounds like a euphemism for something, but it's not). After the mods tour, the band members stopped dancing, Dustin's replacement, Jared, had a chest too hairy to tape up, and then the live show was just like watching nerds at band practice. After Paul left, nobody in the band seemed to want to spit on other band members. It finally devolved during the 'short wave' tour where Mike Roche would not only eschew dance, but he would sit in a chair on the stage, smoking and drinking a latte while reading the sports page or doing a cross-word puzzle while playing the guitar.
I searched the IAS site and found a band contact e-mail, but nothing specific to Dustin. I'll give that a shot, what do I have to lose? I remember reading about the additional art in the Mods album, I read that it never actually materialized though. I would have loved to see them live during any era, but especially during the first two albums.
In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Posted by: Jeff on 07-06-08 about Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message ---
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live.
First, find friend with home recording studio, buy him beer, and beg beg beg.
If you have a computer with a decent sound card, it MAY have RCA-type jacks you can plug a tape deck into, and you may be able to find some shareware recording software. And then struggle for hours and hours to get it to work.
You can dub them to other cassettes and send them to me and I'll encode them for you.
Option 1 is the best.
In response to: tony party on 07-04-08 for all
i have a cassette of 6-8 Le’me in Masha tunes along w/ Fletcher live with Paul Wartella on drums oh and a poop load of Phil A Sheo & the Wet T-shirt contest stuff...now how do i get it from cassette to the ones and zeros format? --- end of previous message ---
i have a cassette of 6-8 Le’me in Masha tunes along w/ Fletcher live with Paul Wartella on drums oh and a poop load of Phil A Sheo & the Wet T-shirt contest stuff...now how do i get it from cassette to the ones and zeros format?
I couldn't play the rhythm and the solo at the same time so I had to do a whistle solo :)
In response to: Jeff on 07-01-08 for all
Where's the solo?????
Nash and I tried to re-mix the original recording (sans original tape, working with just the CD) to remove/extend the fade-out so the listener could hear more of your awesome guitar solo.
In response to: Colin on 07-01-08 for all
Colin Bradford
Plays screwtape hit live
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T3qo2F-2Vvw --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
Where's the solo?????
Nash and I tried to re-mix the original recording (sans original tape, working with just the CD) to remove/extend the fade-out so the listener could hear more of your awesome guitar solo. In response to: Colin on 07-01-08 for all
Colin Bradford
Plays screwtape hit live
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T3qo2F-2Vvw --- end of previous message ---