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By: Bob H on 10-23-07 for Black Spring:

After my stint @ Crunchie I finished up at Western and moved back to Chicago for a couple years... got lured to Colorado by a friend and spent 10 years living just outside of Boulder. Got into Mountaineering... Gave up on skiing and got into Snowboarding... met my better half 6 years ago and we've got a little girl too... I'm back in the Midwest now living just south of Dayton OH.... Will probably move back to CO eventually but for now things are good.

Glad I stumbled across this site a flood of great memories came back to me like the rain thats been coming down all night.






In response to: rit on 10-21-07 for Black Spring

hey Bob!...wow...long time...great to hear from you!



after leaving my illustrious career of delivering kegs to frat parties and peddling 40's to gun wielding, wannabe gangbangers i went on to pursue my dream of becoming a third-rate, hack drummer who over played and couldn't keep time. after touring the country, playings to ten's of fans, well...like Ponky sez, very domestic...get my kicks mtn biking nowadays...that and raising my daughter who is a full on ham and, along with my wife, the best thing that ever happened to me..



Kzoo scene is awesome...i feel fortunate to have met so many righteous bro's and bro-ette's....



afa the crunchie fart incident...yeah, that sucked...but we are here to tell the story...i remember you asked the perp while he had that .357 pointed at yr chest as you steadily manned the register, "do you want the change?"...LOL...



so what's yr story?



-aig






In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.


Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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By: rit on 10-21-07 for Black Spring:

hey Bob!...wow...long time...great to hear from you!

after leaving my illustrious career of delivering kegs to frat parties and peddling 40's to gun wielding, wannabe gangbangers i went on to pursue my dream of becoming a third-rate, hack drummer who over played and couldn't keep time. after touring the country, playings to ten's of fans, well...like Ponky sez, very domestic...get my kicks mtn biking nowadays...that and raising my daughter who is a full on ham and, along with my wife, the best thing that ever happened to me..

Kzoo scene is awesome...i feel fortunate to have met so many righteous bro's and bro-ette's....

afa the crunchie fart incident...yeah, that sucked...but we are here to tell the story...i remember you asked the perp while he had that .357 pointed at yr chest as you steadily manned the register, "do you want the change?"...LOL...

so what's yr story?

-aig




In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.

Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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By: kiry on 10-21-07 for Black Spring:

he lives in grand rapids
happily married
has a new baby girl
very domestic





In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.

Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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Black Spring bridged the gap between the hardcore bands of the mid to late 80's and the Leon's Temple clique of the 90's. While hardly revolutionary, Black spirng was certainly on of the oldest and most testosterone laden bands of the Kalamazoo scene.

It started in the mid 80's in Grand Rapids. The band Holy Terror had split, some members created the new, softer-edged Man Alive. Man Alive never really found its identity and its original version was short lived. When singer, Andy Karnitz split with MA because of creative differences, Charles Bradford stepped in. Man Alive recruited former Violent Apathy drummer Andy Bennet to play drums, and later another VA member, Tommy Fuller joined the group. Eventually, Man Alive split as well, forming two bands - Black Spring and The Confirmation. Man Alive bassist, Tom Griffioen and drummer, Andy Bennet discovered the incredible Dave Grant (Rollinghead, Dead River Drag) and formed The Confirmation. Guitar player, Tommy Fuller and singer, Charles Bradford discovered the young impressionable Craig RitXXXX enour and formed Black Spring.

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Funding problems delayed the release of "Girth" for more than a year. Eventually the band released the album on the newly created Swollen Lip label with cover artwork by Motorbooty artist, Mark Dancey. They went on to tour most of the country to promote the CD, but played to mostly empty bars from Memphis to Seattle.

In 1994, Black Spring went back into the studio (this time at WMU) to record a second full-length album. The new album exhibited some measurable growth in terms of songwriting and musicianship, but those recordings were never released. The band played a few more shows here and there, but slowed to a stop in the mid-nineties.

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Black Spring, presumably named after the Henry Miller novel, were a hard rock trio who perhaps were one of the earliest in the LT clique, playing prior to TI and Twitch. Also earliest was their signing by a label. "Why Not?" records was funded by two locals interested in getting into the music business, and funded Black Spring's pro-level recording with Butch Vig (who had recently finished the Nirvana Nevermind project) and a neat cover illlustration by a famous illustrator. Despite good intentions (?) the label folded and Black Spring started their own label, Swollen Lip, and financing the release of "Girth", their full-length CD, themselves. Black Spring toured the US in 1993. Later, they broke up despite writing enough material for a follow-up record.



  • Charles Bradford, Bass and vocals
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Posted by: Bob H on 10-23-07 about Black Spring

After my stint @ Crunchie I finished up at Western and moved back to Chicago for a couple years... got lured to Colorado by a friend and spent 10 years living just outside of Boulder. Got into Mountaineering... Gave up on skiing and got into Snowboarding... met my better half 6 years ago and we've got a little girl too... I'm back in the Midwest now living just south of Dayton OH.... Will probably move back to CO eventually but for now things are good.

Glad I stumbled across this site a flood of great memories came back to me like the rain thats been coming down all night.






In response to: rit on 10-21-07 for Black Spring

hey Bob!...wow...long time...great to hear from you!



after leaving my illustrious career of delivering kegs to frat parties and peddling 40's to gun wielding, wannabe gangbangers i went on to pursue my dream of becoming a third-rate, hack drummer who over played and couldn't keep time. after touring the country, playings to ten's of fans, well...like Ponky sez, very domestic...get my kicks mtn biking nowadays...that and raising my daughter who is a full on ham and, along with my wife, the best thing that ever happened to me..



Kzoo scene is awesome...i feel fortunate to have met so many righteous bro's and bro-ette's....



afa the crunchie fart incident...yeah, that sucked...but we are here to tell the story...i remember you asked the perp while he had that .357 pointed at yr chest as you steadily manned the register, "do you want the change?"...LOL...



so what's yr story?



-aig






In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.


Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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Posted by: rit on 10-21-07 about Black Spring

hey Bob!...wow...long time...great to hear from you!

after leaving my illustrious career of delivering kegs to frat parties and peddling 40's to gun wielding, wannabe gangbangers i went on to pursue my dream of becoming a third-rate, hack drummer who over played and couldn't keep time. after touring the country, playings to ten's of fans, well...like Ponky sez, very domestic...get my kicks mtn biking nowadays...that and raising my daughter who is a full on ham and, along with my wife, the best thing that ever happened to me..

Kzoo scene is awesome...i feel fortunate to have met so many righteous bro's and bro-ette's....

afa the crunchie fart incident...yeah, that sucked...but we are here to tell the story...i remember you asked the perp while he had that .357 pointed at yr chest as you steadily manned the register, "do you want the change?"...LOL...

so what's yr story?

-aig




In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.

Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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Posted by: kiry on 10-21-07 about Black Spring

he lives in grand rapids
happily married
has a new baby girl
very domestic





In response to: Bob H on 10-19-07 for Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.

Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!
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Posted by: Bob H on 10-19-07 about Black Spring

What happened to Craig I worked with him @ Munchie Mart store #1 around the time that Girth was recorded. I remember that they were having a hard time getting to point of releasing the album.
Craig and I were Robbed @ gunpoint one night working Munchie. That SUCKED!

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Posted by: Matt Walker on 09-22-07 about Black Spring

Last I heard, Tom Fuller had left his job brewing beer at Bell's in Kalamazoo to open Old Hat, a brewery, in Lawton.

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Posted by: Tommy on 08-18-07 about Black Spring

I have a good clean copy that will get on here soon.




In response to: Chonk on 05-14-07 for Black Spring

Was this the session that Butch Vig engineered?



The drums are incredible.



Bringing back memories - where's my Bim from the Orient?
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Posted by: Charles on 07-31-07 about Black Spring


Its true... Butch did put an big plexiglass extension on the Kick drum. The sound from Smart Studios was incredible. Too bad the CD production was awful. It actually sounds better on cassette. I have a bunch if anyone's interested.




In response to: Jeff on 05-26-07 for Black Spring

Rumor is that Butch put a giant 9 foot long plexiglass tube in front of the kick drum to make it boom.



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In response to: Chonk on 05-14-07 for Black Spring

Was this the session that Butch Vig engineered?





The drums are incredible.





Bringing back memories - where's my Bim from the Orient?
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Posted by: Lee Barton on 07-05-07 about Black Spring

There'll be a lot people saying "no sh*t", but what the hell. For those who don't know, the "famous illustrator" who did the cover for Black Spring's CD was Mark Dancey, former guitar player for Big Chief and editor/originator of Motorbooty zine. He's still cranking out illustrations and art work with that distinct style of his.

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Posted by: Jeff on 05-26-07 about Black Spring

Rumor is that Butch put a giant 9 foot long plexiglass tube in front of the kick drum to make it boom.

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In response to: Chonk on 05-14-07 for Black Spring

Was this the session that Butch Vig engineered?



The drums are incredible.



Bringing back memories - where's my Bim from the Orient?
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Posted by: Chonk on 05-14-07 about Black Spring

Was this the session that Butch Vig engineered?

The drums are incredible.

Bringing back memories - where's my Bim from the Orient?

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Posted by: Steve on 03-30-07 about Black Spring

Black Spring was the best! Often underrated next to Twitch, Thought Industry and Screwtape. "Girth" rules!

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