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By: Tommy on 02-27-10 for Thought Industry:
We have a Facebook group on the go, if anybody would like to contribute, I can make you an Officer and eventually an Administrator. :) I know, I know, its a lot to compute, but do it to honor the band! thOught industry....for eva!
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By: Jeff on 01-04-10 for Thought Industry:
ah, but what came first? The dude is totally into vanity plates. In fact, his current license plate says #1soxfan (ever since his move to Boston). And he loves getting his own custom printed photo t-shirts of him giving the double-cobain to the camera. He obviously had an 111MZD plate made after learning/devising/encrypting its true meaning.
Mystery rebunked!
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By: Ryan on 01-04-10 for Thought Industry:
Brent's license plate.
In response to: John Henry on 05-04-08 for Thought Industry
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Thought Industry (1991 - 2002 (and beyond?)
(There's still tons of stuff on TI around, despite the site being long gone. This description is from wikipedia. someone please send a real one to cool @ leons temple . com (remove spaces))
American progressive metal band Thought Industry was formed in Kalamazoo, Michigan in 1989 by vocalist/bassist Brent Oberlin, drummer Dustin Donaldson (who formed I Am Spoonbender in 1997), guitarist Christopher Simmonds (aka Christopher Lee), and guitarist Steve Spaeth. Spaeth left the band due to internal conflicts with Simmonds and started the band Clockmaker. The position was filled by guitarist Paul Enzio in time for 1992's "Songs For Insects", their Metal Blade Records debut. This was followed up by the art-metal masterpiece "Mods Carve The Pig: Assassins, Toads and God's Flesh". 1996's "Outer Space Is Just a Martini Away" subsequently saw a significant change in the band's sound and lineup when Donaldson was replaced by ex-Clockmaker drummer Jared Bryant. Oberlin switched to guitar and Bassist Herb Ledbetter was added. Thought Industry continued to strip down their lineup and sound with 1997's moody "Black Umbrella", which saw the departure of Lee. Bryant, Enzio and Ledbetter also left the band in 1999 which prompted Oberlin to assemble an entirely new lineup for 2001's magnum opus "Short Wave on a Cold Day". Engineer Mike Roche, who recorded "Black Umbrella" and filled in on bass from time to time, was added as a full time guitarist along with drummer Cameron Taylor, bassist Mark Baldwin and guitarist/keyboardist Jeff Borkowski.
- Brent Oberlin, Bass, guitar, vocals, keyboards
- Christopher Lee, Guitar
- Steve Spaeth, Guitar
- Dustin Donaldson, Drums
- Paul Enzio, Guitar
- Jeff Hutchinson, Drums
- Jared Bryant, Drums
- Herb Ledbetter, bass
- Mike Roche, bass, guitar
- Cam Taylor, drums
- Jeff Borkowski, Guitar, keys
- Mark Baldwin, bass
- Brent played in Desecrator, Feedbag, Genius Hired Guns, TASM Lab, and Cosmonaut.
- Chris played in Desecrator, Filter, Glassy and other projects
- Steve played in Clockmaker
- Dustin played in Desecrator, Pansy Division, and I Am Spoonbender
- Jeff H. played in Clockmaker
- Jared played in Clockmaker, Table., Genius Hired Guns, Dead River Drag, Rollinghead
- Herb played in Braintree and The Waterladies
- Mike played in Table, Dead River Drag, The Casies, and Rollinghead
- Cam played in Posi (I think) and the Mad Butchers?
- Jeff B. played in First to the Fence
- Not sure who else Mark played with (Jeff's note)
Lucky for everybody, TI's music is still widely available for sale and download. Links below!
LT EXCLUSIVE! LIVE TRACK(s)
- Whale - Live
LT EXCLUSIVE! THE SIGNING DEMO
This is the cassette demo that sold many (probably thousands?) copies and eventually was handed off from Jason Newstead to label guys, and arguably, started the real golden age in kzoo.
- Wishing Well
- Chalice Vermillion
- Red Bar
- The Flesh is Weak
- The Final Ballet
METALBLADE ALBUMS FOR DOWNLOAD
List below are Apple iTunes links to some TI albums
Shortwave on a Cold Day 
Recruited to do good deeds
Black Umbrella
OTHER METALBLADE TI ALBUMS:
While not on iTunes, you can still buy a CD copy at Amazon and other places
Buy "Songs for Insects"
Buy Mods "Carve the Pig"
Buy "Outerspace is just a martini away"
OTHER RECORDINGS:
- Gelatin/Metal 7"
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Posted by: Tommy on 02-27-10 about Thought Industry
We have a Facebook group on the go, if anybody would like to contribute, I can make you an Officer and eventually an Administrator. :) I know, I know, its a lot to compute, but do it to honor the band! thOught industry....for eva!
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Posted by: Jeff on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry
ah, but what came first? The dude is totally into vanity plates. In fact, his current license plate says #1soxfan (ever since his move to Boston). And he loves getting his own custom printed photo t-shirts of him giving the double-cobain to the camera. He obviously had an 111MZD plate made after learning/devising/encrypting its true meaning.
Mystery rebunked!
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Posted by: Ryan on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry
Brent's license plate.
In response to: John Henry on 05-04-08 for Thought Industry
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Posted by: twan on 12-10-09 about Thought Industry
thought industry will always rule.
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Posted by: MISSOURITWIST on 10-05-09 about Thought Industry
UPLOADED THIS FOR FUN SOME THOUGHT INDUSTRY FROM 10 BELLS!SONGS CALLED "SEE YOU"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxzsW9bPWQ
In response to: dan on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too.
-just sayin
In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: dan on 09-02-09 about Thought Industry
ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too.
-just sayin
In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: fjc on 09-02-09 about Thought Industry
I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar.
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Posted by: Steffen add killorama.de on 02-06-09 about Thought Industry
can anybody tell me, if those "demo clips from (what would have been) the next thought industry album" are ever goin to be proper songs and will be released? because this stuff is flaming!
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Posted by: Jef Till for Dustin on 08-26-08 about Thought Industry
Please send us stuff, you must have it.
Not that it is of any quality, but you can hear my Dustin tribute/homage on the Hudson Debacle's "Hudson Debacle Part I: Drinking with my friends". Moments after I bought my drumset I went out and bought a big, obnoxious, Mods-era ice bell and tried to hit it on the 4 and a half whenever I could.
Related but off topic, Joby said that "drinking with my friends" was a decent song to listen to at 4 am when you are drinking with your friends.
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Posted by: carl on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry
Oh the super hotness of duct tape nipples.
One other thing about the old TI shows was their incorporation of multimedia into their sets prior to anyone else using it(that I can remember.) Of course Tool later stole the idea, and to this day uses the same footage they were using in the mid 90's.
Nothing like seeing a dozen 19 inch tv's piled on top of one another playing some sort of psychotic montage of visuals.
In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Dustin Donaldson on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry
eat shit, poser! pee pee tastes like SUCCESS! bwah ha ha (purpl dave squeal) you have an amazing memory, jeff! i support this site with my vine st heart- dustin
In response to: Jeff T on 08-22-08 for Thought Industry
Can you ask him what pee-pee tastes like?
In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details:
http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111
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Posted by: Jeff T on 08-22-08 about Thought Industry
Can you ask him what pee-pee tastes like?
In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details:
http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111
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Posted by: Trey on 08-21-08 about Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details:
http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111
P.S. - The only reason it's just Dustin right now is because he's the only one we can reach. Christopher is unreachable right now... Brent & Paul; where are you? ;)
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Posted by: on 08-13-08 about Thought Industry
new myspace page for old T.I. stuff: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111/
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Posted by: tibetan snowman on 08-13-08 about Thought Industry
Dustin Donaldson in Los Angeles 8.8.08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsRjqANpZ4
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Posted by: Jeff on 07-07-08 about Thought Industry
My favorite TI tour was 'mods' when Brent played the bass slung super low and he made crazy-face while he tappity-tapped. Between his super-low bass and Dustin's super high cymbals, it seemed as if they were trying to make things a little extra challenging to pull off. I believe Chris was still dragging around the old trashcan to beat on too (that sounds like a euphemism for something, but it's not). After the mods tour, the band members stopped dancing, Dustin's replacement, Jared, had a chest too hairy to tape up, and then the live show was just like watching nerds at band practice. After Paul left, nobody in the band seemed to want to spit on other band members. It finally devolved during the 'short wave' tour where Mike Roche would not only eschew dance, but he would sit in a chair on the stage, smoking and drinking a latte while reading the sports page or doing a cross-word puzzle while playing the guitar.
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Posted by: on 07-07-08 about Thought Industry
I searched the IAS site and found a band contact e-mail, but nothing specific to Dustin. I'll give that a shot, what do I have to lose? I remember reading about the additional art in the Mods album, I read that it never actually materialized though. I would have loved to see them live during any era, but especially during the first two albums.
In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Jeff on 07-06-08 about Thought Industry
I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer.
Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks.
You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape.
In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: on 07-05-08 about Thought Industry
I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live.
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Posted by: Riki Rachtman on 07-04-08 about Thought Industry
Or me
In response to: on 07-04-08 for Thought Industry
Your best bet is to try Dustin Donaldson, methinks.
>> live Thought Industry videos? --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: on 07-04-08 about Thought Industry
Your best bet is to try Dustin Donaldson, methinks.
>> live Thought Industry videos?
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Posted by: Trey on 07-01-08 about Thought Industry
Does anyone have any live Thought Industry videos? The earlier the better. I've seen clips on youtube, someone has to have the originals.
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Posted by: Attlex Valtila on 06-13-08 about Thought Industry
I'm coming from France and I've just discovered the Thought Industry's music. It's amazing... and I wonder how a such band isn't more known and rated. I don't understand.
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Posted by: John Henry on 05-04-08 about Thought Industry
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Posted by: christopher lee simmonds on 04-23-08 about Thought Industry
WOW... this is so cool!
contact me: myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds
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Posted by: Spoonman, I mean, Spoonbender on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry
I'm finally coming around to our band's early genius, or at least MY genius.
In response to: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 for Thought Industry
THought Industry demo rules!!!! --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry
THought Industry demo rules!!!!
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Posted by: master on 03-13-08 about Thought Industry
Uncarved block: Send it over! Send mp3's to master @ leonstemple . com (remove spaces)
Anyone hear Irreversible's Kzoo WIDR show yesterday? I looked for the playlist but it wasn't posted on the widr site.
In response to: Jeremie on 03-12-08 for Thought Industry
I Have some Uncarved Block to Add to the list. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Jeremie on 03-12-08 about Thought Industry
I Have some Uncarved Block to Add to the list.
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Posted by: Flying Cymbals on 03-07-08 about Thought Industry
Nothing will ever be as cool as Dustin's way-too out of reach cymbal playing. That was so cool. Classic
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Posted by: enemencio123 on 01-16-08 about Thought Industry
Brent,
i'm trying to get a hold of you about a possible Project that i would like you to be involved in.
i still live in GR so its quite easy to contact me.
you can send me a message at :
myspace/enemencio3000
thanks man, hope to hear from you soon.
by the way... "shortwave on a cold day" is a Masterpiece... ears that haven't heard it are missing out...
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Posted by: myspace.com/teenagersliveforever on 01-12-08 about Thought Industry
Chris moved to Chicago (in '96 or so?) and played in an ensemble called Glassy -- after the Outer Space is Just... album and etc. That was quite awhile ago. There were also some midwest rumblings of a Brent Oberlin solo album MANY YEARS ago which did not happen, but that certainly woulda been cool. I am one of those nimrods who sent three bucks to the address in the MODS Carve the Pig booklet, which promised an illustrated booklet to be mailed...when I spoke to Dustin in '95 (outside his Pansy Division gig) he suggested the booklet wasn't going to happen...
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Posted by: Maurizio on 01-08-08 about Thought Industry
I met Dustin Donaldson in Berlin last year and got to ask him all sorts of stuff about his work, even all the way back to Thought Industry days when he only played drums. What a pioneer, and fearless. It's great that he's made it. cheers from Austria!
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Posted by: Maurizio on 01-08-08 about Thought Industry
I met Dustin Donaldson in Berlin last year and got to ask him all sorts of stuff about his work, even all the way back to Thought Industry days when he only played drums. What a pioneer, and fearless. It's great that he's made it. cheers from Austria!
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