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By: John Henry on 05-04-08 for Thought Industry:
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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By: christopher lee simmonds on 04-23-08 for Thought Industry:
WOW... this is so cool!
contact me: myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds
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By: Spoonman, I mean, Spoonbender on 03-25-08 for Thought Industry:
I'm finally coming around to our band's early genius, or at least MY genius.
In response to: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 for Thought Industry
THought Industry demo rules!!!! --- end of previous message ---
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Thought Industry (1991 - 2002 (and beyond?)
(There's still tons of stuff on TI around, despite the site being long gone. This description is from wikipedia. someone please send a real one to cool @ leons temple . com (remove spaces))
American progressive metal band Thought Industry was formed in Kalamazoo, Michigan in 1989 by vocalist/bassist Brent Oberlin, drummer Dustin Donaldson (who formed I Am Spoonbender in 1997), guitarist Christopher Simmonds (aka Christopher Lee), and guitarist Steve Spaeth. Spaeth left the band due to internal conflicts with Simmonds and started the band Clockmaker. The position was filled by guitarist Paul Enzio in time for 1992's "Songs For Insects", their Metal Blade Records debut. This was followed up by the art-metal masterpiece "Mods Carve The Pig: Assassins, Toads and God's Flesh". 1996's "Outer Space Is Just a Martini Away" subsequently saw a significant change in the band's sound and lineup when Donaldson was replaced by ex-Clockmaker drummer Jared Bryant. Oberlin switched to guitar and Bassist Herb Ledbetter was added. Thought Industry continued to strip down their lineup and sound with 1997's moody "Black Umbrella", which saw the departure of Lee. Bryant, Enzio and Ledbetter also left the band in 1999 which prompted Oberlin to assemble an entirely new lineup for 2001's magnum opus "Short Wave on a Cold Day". Engineer Mike Roche, who recorded "Black Umbrella" and filled in on bass from time to time, was added as a full time guitarist along with drummer Cameron Taylor, bassist Mark Baldwin and guitarist/keyboardist Jeff Borkowski.
- Brent Oberlin, Bass, guitar, vocals, keyboards
- Christopher Lee, Guitar
- Steve Spaeth, Guitar
- Dustin Donaldson, Drums
- Paul Enzio, Guitar
- Jeff Hutchinson, Drums
- Jared Bryant, Drums
- Herb Ledbetter, bass
- Mike Roche, bass, guitar
- Cam Taylor, drums
- Jeff Borkowski, Guitar, keys
- Mark Baldwin, bass
- Brent played in Desecrator, Feedbag, Genius Hired Guns, TASM Lab, and Cosmonaut.
- Chris played in Desecrator, Filter, Glassy and other projects
- Steve played in Clockmaker
- Dustin played in Desecrator, Pansy Division, and I Am Spoonbender
- Jeff H. played in Clockmaker
- Jared played in Clockmaker, Table., Genius Hired Guns, Dead River Drag, Rollinghead
- Herb played in Braintree and The Waterladies
- Mike played in Table, Dead River Drag, The Casies, and Rollinghead
- Cam played in Posi (I think) and the Mad Butchers?
- Jeff B. played in First to the Fence
- Not sure who else Mark played with (Jeff's note)
Lucky for everybody, TI's music is still widely available for sale and download. Links below!
LT EXCLUSIVE! LIVE TRACK(s)
- Whale - Live
LT EXCLUSIVE! THE SIGNING DEMO
This is the cassette demo that sold many (probably thousands?) copies and eventually was handed off from Jason Newstead to label guys, and arguably, started the real golden age in kzoo.
- Wishing Well
- Chalice Vermillion
- Red Bar
- The Flesh is Weak
- The Final Ballet
METALBLADE ALBUMS FOR DOWNLOAD
List below are Apple iTunes links to some TI albums
Shortwave on a Cold Day 
Recruited to do good deeds
Black Umbrella
OTHER METALBLADE TI ALBUMS:
While not on iTunes, you can still buy a CD copy at Amazon and other places
Buy "Songs for Insects"
Buy Mods "Carve the Pig"
Buy "Outerspace is just a martini away"
OTHER RECORDINGS:
- Gelatin/Metal 7"
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Posted by: John Henry on 05-04-08 about Thought Industry
One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago...
-jh
In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Posted by: christopher lee simmonds on 04-23-08 about Thought Industry
WOW... this is so cool!
contact me: myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds
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Posted by: Spoonman, I mean, Spoonbender on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry
I'm finally coming around to our band's early genius, or at least MY genius.
In response to: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 for Thought Industry
THought Industry demo rules!!!! --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry
THought Industry demo rules!!!!
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Posted by: master on 03-13-08 about Thought Industry
Uncarved block: Send it over! Send mp3's to master @ leonstemple . com (remove spaces)
Anyone hear Irreversible's Kzoo WIDR show yesterday? I looked for the playlist but it wasn't posted on the widr site.
In response to: Jeremie on 03-12-08 for Thought Industry
I Have some Uncarved Block to Add to the list. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Jeremie on 03-12-08 about Thought Industry
I Have some Uncarved Block to Add to the list.
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Posted by: Flying Cymbals on 03-07-08 about Thought Industry
Nothing will ever be as cool as Dustin's way-too out of reach cymbal playing. That was so cool. Classic
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Posted by: enemencio123 on 01-16-08 about Thought Industry
Brent,
i'm trying to get a hold of you about a possible Project that i would like you to be involved in.
i still live in GR so its quite easy to contact me.
you can send me a message at :
myspace/enemencio3000
thanks man, hope to hear from you soon.
by the way... "shortwave on a cold day" is a Masterpiece... ears that haven't heard it are missing out...
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Posted by: myspace.com/teenagersliveforever on 01-12-08 about Thought Industry
Chris moved to Chicago (in '96 or so?) and played in an ensemble called Glassy -- after the Outer Space is Just... album and etc. That was quite awhile ago. There were also some midwest rumblings of a Brent Oberlin solo album MANY YEARS ago which did not happen, but that certainly woulda been cool. I am one of those nimrods who sent three bucks to the address in the MODS Carve the Pig booklet, which promised an illustrated booklet to be mailed...when I spoke to Dustin in '95 (outside his Pansy Division gig) he suggested the booklet wasn't going to happen...
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Posted by: Maurizio on 01-08-08 about Thought Industry
I met Dustin Donaldson in Berlin last year and got to ask him all sorts of stuff about his work, even all the way back to Thought Industry days when he only played drums. What a pioneer, and fearless. It's great that he's made it. cheers from Austria!
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Posted by: Maurizio on 01-08-08 about Thought Industry
I met Dustin Donaldson in Berlin last year and got to ask him all sorts of stuff about his work, even all the way back to Thought Industry days when he only played drums. What a pioneer, and fearless. It's great that he's made it. cheers from Austria!
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Posted by: ALeX on 12-09-07 about Thought Industry
What's happening with these guys? Is Brent still playing for Cosm'? What was Chris's band after T.I, did they release anything? I remember he came on W.F.I and said their sound was like the Mods Carve album.. You can't imagine how much all these back recordings and live footage on YouTubE means to a lowly Australian T.I fan. I have G.H.G, Table, every T.I album, including the re-released Gelatin record, and finally - isn't the mystery of the 111mzd written up in the Desecrator history? Cheers to the Kalamazoo/Mich sound scene.....
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Posted by: ALeX on 12-09-07 about Thought Industry
What's happening with these guys? Is Brent still playing for Cosm'? What was Chris's band after T.I, did they release anything? I remember he came on W.F.I and said their sound was like the Mods Carve album.. You can't imagine how much all these back recordings and live footage on YouTubE means to a lowly Australian T.I fan. I have G.H.G, Table, every T.I album, including the re-released Gelatin record, and finally - isn't the mystery of the 111mzd written up in the Desecrator history? Cheers to the Kalamazoo/Mich sound scene.....
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Posted by: Z on 12-07-07 about Thought Industry
100% certain Brent's license plate number. The car was larger than Donald Trumps yacht. When I win the lottery I will personally pay for a reunion concert.
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In response to: Master on 11-28-07 for Thought Industry
Send the links to master@leonstemple.com and we'll post them
In response to: Pete on 11-27-07 for Thought Industry
Someone posted live videos of "Wishing Well" and "The Chalice Vermilion" on Youtube. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Z on 12-07-07 about Thought Industry
In response to: Master on 11-28-07 for Thought Industry
Send the links to master@leonstemple.com and we'll post them
In response to: Pete on 11-27-07 for Thought Industry
Someone posted live videos of "Wishing Well" and "The Chalice Vermilion" on Youtube. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Master on 11-28-07 about Thought Industry
Send the links to master@leonstemple.com and we'll post them
In response to: Pete on 11-27-07 for Thought Industry
Someone posted live videos of "Wishing Well" and "The Chalice Vermilion" on Youtube. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Pete on 11-27-07 about Thought Industry
Someone posted live videos of "Wishing Well" and "The Chalice Vermilion" on Youtube.
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Posted by: Brent on 11-09-07 about Thought Industry
In response to: summer, 87 on 11-03-07 for Thought Industry
it is true that brent's licence plate had the infamous 111 mzd stamped into it, but it is NOT the actual source of the 111 mzd concept. it is only known by dustin donaldson, christopher lee and brent oberlin, and they are known to have made a pact of eternal secrecy regarding the meaning and purpose of the cipher.
In response to: JamesD on 11-01-07 for Thought Industry
Ok I myself did not ask Brent this question (so take it as you will)..but one of my friends asked Brent what 111MZD meant. His reply was that it was his licence plate number. True or not? Guess you will have the track down Brent and ask him yourself. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: summer, 87 on 11-03-07 about Thought Industry
it is true that brent's licence plate had the infamous 111 mzd stamped into it, but it is NOT the actual source of the 111 mzd concept. it is only known by dustin donaldson, christopher lee and brent oberlin, and they are known to have made a pact of eternal secrecy regarding the meaning and purpose of the cipher.
In response to: JamesD on 11-01-07 for Thought Industry
Ok I myself did not ask Brent this question (so take it as you will)..but one of my friends asked Brent what 111MZD meant. His reply was that it was his licence plate number. True or not? Guess you will have the track down Brent and ask him yourself. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: summer, 87 on 11-03-07 about Thought Industry
it is true that brent's licence plate had the infamous 111 mzd stamped into it, but it is NOT the actual source of the 111 mzd concept. it is only known by dustin donaldson, christopher lee and brent oberlin, and they are known to have made a pact of eternal secrecy regarding the meaning and purpose of the cipher.
In response to: JamesD on 11-01-07 for Thought Industry
Ok I myself did not ask Brent this question (so take it as you will)..but one of my friends asked Brent what 111MZD meant. His reply was that it was his licence plate number. True or not? Guess you will have the track down Brent and ask him yourself. --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: JamesD on 11-01-07 about Thought Industry
Ok I myself did not ask Brent this question (so take it as you will)..but one of my friends asked Brent what 111MZD meant. His reply was that it was his licence plate number. True or not? Guess you will have the track down Brent and ask him yourself.
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Posted by: Master on 10-28-07 about Thought Industry
Don't think we can answer that one
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Posted by: what? on 10-28-07 about Thought Industry
after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean?
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Posted by: lynx technique on 09-16-07 about Thought Industry
left side:
1. The Chalice Vermillion
2. The Flesh is Weak
right side:
3. Wishing Well
4. Red Barchetta
5. Final Ballet
it matters with TI!
In response to: steffen on 09-16-07 for Thought Industry
hey whats the right order of the demo now? is it:
1. Wishing Well
2. Chalice Vermillion
3. Red Bar
4. The Flesh is Weak
5. The Final Ballet
or is it
1. The Chalice Vermillion
2. The Flesh is Weak
3. Wishing Well
4. Red Barchetta
5. Final Ballet
or is it even
1 wishing
2 red
3 final
4 chalice
5 flesh
i'm a nerd, i must know! ;-) --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: steffen on 09-16-07 about Thought Industry
hey whats the right order of the demo now? is it:
1. Wishing Well
2. Chalice Vermillion
3. Red Bar
4. The Flesh is Weak
5. The Final Ballet
or is it
1. The Chalice Vermillion
2. The Flesh is Weak
3. Wishing Well
4. Red Barchetta
5. Final Ballet
or is it even
1 wishing
2 red
3 final
4 chalice
5 flesh
i'm a nerd, i must know! ;-)
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Posted by: Jeff B on 08-22-07 about Thought Industry
Christ, who played drums on Plastic Baby, Muhammad Ali? Terrible.
Oh yeah, it was Brent. Don't quit your day job brah!
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Posted by: Cameron on 07-30-07 about Thought Industry
Not sure if Brent or Mike want it being bandied about so I'll ask before I go much further but I did have a tape with Ferris Wheel/Plastic Baby/other stuff post Shortwave with drums that are one mic in a room special goodness. I took Ferris Wheel to Posi and it turned into Economy of Motion. I still like Brent's lyrics better (obviously) but I'm glad it lives on.
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Posted by: Cameron on 07-30-07 about Thought Industry
Not sure if Brent or Mike want it being bandied about so I'll ask before I go much further but I did have a tape with Ferris Wheel/Plastic Baby/other stuff post Shortwave with drums that are one mic in a room special goodness. I took Ferris Wheel to Posi and it turned into Economy of Motion. I still like Brent's lyrics better (obviously) but I'm glad it lives on.
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Posted by: missouritwist on 07-03-07 about Thought Industry
I sent them in, I guess we are waiting for brents approval to post!!
In response to: Dan K. on 06-12-07 for Thought Industry
do you still have those newer demos that Mike had posted with ferris wheel and plastic baby and stuff? i would listen to those. (and rip them off) --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Jeff on 06-24-07 about Thought Industry
Wouldn't you think? There should be extra live and accoustic tracks. Mike might now.
In response to: Pete on 06-24-07 for Thought Industry
Are there more songs from the live show used for Recruited floating around? --- end of previous message ---
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Posted by: Pete on 06-24-07 about Thought Industry
Are there more songs from the live show used for Recruited floating around?
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Posted by: Dan K. on 06-12-07 about Thought Industry
do you still have those newer demos that Mike had posted with ferris wheel and plastic baby and stuff? i would listen to those. (and rip them off)
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